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> Which is actually a good thing for the diversity of browser engines How is only allowing ONE browser engine good for diversity? If anything it hinders divers

> Which is actually a good thing for the diversity of browser engines How is only allowing ONE browser engine good for diversity? If anything it hinders diversity and progress on iOS. > Websites would further go down the path of only testing on Chrome If only it would be possible to test Safari on a non Apple device, Apple is partial it fault here > And answer this: how would allowing other engines increase privacy? Because then there could be competition between Safari, Firefox, Brave etc. Answer this: why do you let Apple dictate what Apps you can install on a ($700 - $1100) phone that you own?

nwienert 6y ago
If you define diversity as market share, explain how v8 won’t gain market share if allowed on iOS. And v8 already has way too much. Anyone paying attention can see there is a massive battle over web standards right now between Apple and Google, King Kong vs Godzilla (the other players aren’t in the same league), with the former being the one consistently fighting for privacy, and the latter for ever more invasive ads. To me arguing for letting v8 on iOS is like saying why don’t we weaken King Kong so we can add a few more firefighters. It just doesn’t make sense. You don’t weaken the fighter thats lower in share (and stands against invasive advertising) because you feel bad for the local police not getting a chance. It’s actually exactly why I’m happy to pay 700 - and if they opened it to other engines I’d value it less. You can’t have a black and white view of freedom. Sometimes freedom is having an imperfect yet big and tough player that stands for what you want, against a worse option. The implementation is less free technically, but the outcome is more free dramatically (balance of power over the direction and control of the web and privacy). I’d prefer a world where Chrome had a lot less market share, and then I’d not mind if it was more open. But we don’t live in that world. I’ll take the trade off.

nwienert 6y ago

If you define diversity as market share, explain how v8 won’t gain market share if allowed on iOS. And v8 already has way too much. Anyone paying attention can see there is a massive battle over web standards right now between Apple and Google, King Kong vs Godzilla (the other players aren’t in the same league), with the former being the one consistently fighting for privacy, and the latter for ever more invasive ads. To me arguing for letting v8 on iOS is like saying why don’t we weaken King Kong so we can add a few more firefighters. It just doesn’t make sense. You don’t weaken the fighter thats lower in share (and stands against invasive advertising) because you feel bad for the local police not getting a chance. It’s actually exactly why I’m happy to pay 700 - and if they opened it to other engines I’d value it less. You can’t have a black and white view of freedom. Sometimes freedom is having an imperfect yet big and tough player that stands for what you want, against a worse option. The implementation is less free technically, but the outcome is more free dramatically (balance of power over the direction and control of the web and privacy). I’d prefer a world where Chrome had a lot less market share, and then I’d not mind if it was more open. But we don’t live in that world. I’ll take the trade off.