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…and CCC helps them get back up: https://streaming.media.ccc.de/revision/revision https://streaming.media.ccc.de/revision/revision

q3k 6y ago
It's amazing how fast they got everything back up. And at a higher quality than Twitch, too! The c3voc folks are heroes.
- ArtWomb 6y ago
  Quality is terrific. Probably because the lo-fi frames compress nicely! Underscores the need for a dedicated video service for live coders, algo ravers, demosceners, etc. Mux would be an interesting sponsor here ;)
  - q3k 6y ago
    Demos, especially modern/highend prods with tons of noise and other tiny details (scanline filters, fractals, ...), are legendarily ruthless encoder killers.
    - laverya 6y ago
      Kind of ironic, given how small the sources are.
      - toxik 6y ago
        Interesting challenge Smallest demo that compressed to the largest video file
        makapuf 6y ago
        Cat /dev/random?
        timClicks 6y ago
        Surely dd would be faster than that.
        CodesInChaos 6y ago
        /dev/random is super slow and even /dev/urandom is surprisingly slow. If you care about performance, something like round reduced AES or ChaCha would be a decent choice.
        IcePic 6y ago
        OpenBSD /dev/(u)random uses ChaCha20 and gives me a few hundred MB/s on recent hw.
        vanviegen 6y ago
        That would actually be really easy to replicate in such a way that no human could tell the difference.
        toxik 6y ago
        Somewhat lacking in the aesthetic department
      - mckirk 6y ago
        That actually nicely illustrates the parallel between AI and compression. An 'almighty' AI would be able to reverse engineer the source code from what it sees and compress it back down to that size. But then it might determine that the best compression would be no transmission at all, and decide to eradicate any potential viewers. Those damn pesky almighty AIs.
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- rexreed 6y ago
  What streaming tech / infrastructure do they use?
  - q3k 6y ago
    A bunch of custom stuff around industry and open standards, from camera to mixer to transcoder to CDN to browser code. https://c3voc.de/wiki/docu:overview https://c3voc.de/wiki/docu:overview

q3k 6y ago

It's amazing how fast they got everything back up. And at a higher quality than Twitch, too! The c3voc folks are heroes.

ArtWomb 6y ago
Quality is terrific. Probably because the lo-fi frames compress nicely! Underscores the need for a dedicated video service for live coders, algo ravers, demosceners, etc. Mux would be an interesting sponsor here ;)
- q3k 6y ago
  Demos, especially modern/highend prods with tons of noise and other tiny details (scanline filters, fractals, ...), are legendarily ruthless encoder killers.
  - laverya 6y ago
    Kind of ironic, given how small the sources are.
    - toxik 6y ago
      Interesting challenge Smallest demo that compressed to the largest video file
      - makapuf 6y ago
        Cat /dev/random?
        timClicks 6y ago
        Surely dd would be faster than that.
        CodesInChaos 6y ago
        /dev/random is super slow and even /dev/urandom is surprisingly slow. If you care about performance, something like round reduced AES or ChaCha would be a decent choice.
        IcePic 6y ago
        OpenBSD /dev/(u)random uses ChaCha20 and gives me a few hundred MB/s on recent hw.
        vanviegen 6y ago
        That would actually be really easy to replicate in such a way that no human could tell the difference.
        toxik 6y ago
        Somewhat lacking in the aesthetic department
    - mckirk 6y ago
      That actually nicely illustrates the parallel between AI and compression. An 'almighty' AI would be able to reverse engineer the source code from what it sees and compress it back down to that size. But then it might determine that the best compression would be no transmission at all, and decide to eradicate any potential viewers. Those damn pesky almighty AIs.
  - deleted 6y ago
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rexreed 6y ago
What streaming tech / infrastructure do they use?
- q3k 6y ago
  A bunch of custom stuff around industry and open standards, from camera to mixer to transcoder to CDN to browser code. https://c3voc.de/wiki/docu:overview https://c3voc.de/wiki/docu:overview