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> "Armin received a bottle of jenever in thanks. „But the customs made me throw it away before the return flight. I couldn’t even take a sip.”" It would have b

> "Armin received a bottle of jenever in thanks. „But the customs made me throw it away before the return flight. I couldn’t even take a sip.”" It would have been airport security that made him throw it away, not customs. At that time, the UK was part of the customs union, so there were no customs on a flight between the Netherlands and UK.

raverbashing 6y ago
Yes (he should have known not to take liquids as hand-luggage on a flight) Edit: as hand-luggage
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- toomuchtodo 6y ago
  Can you not take spirits, wine, or beer (sealed) on a flight in the EU? EDIT: Removed question about duty free, answered by replies below. Odd, as in the US, there is no limit if in your checked baggage if below 24% ABV, and 5 liters if 24% - 70% (carry on has much stricter limits [3.4oz or less that can fit comfortably in one quart-sized, clear, zip-top bag], but is still permitted). https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/06/21/tsa-travel-tip-traveling-alcohol https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/06/21/tsa-travel-tip-traveling...
  - Ekaros 6y ago
    They are after the checkpoints and they are marked. So you can take them on board. But that likely won't work for next flight if you have to through security again... Also some airlines sell stuff that is directly deposited on your seat.
    - tsimionescu 6y ago
      You can buy it from a duty-free shop even if you have multiple flights, even if you have to transfer out of the security area - they seal it in a special bag with receipts attached; when you go to your next security check-in, you present the sealed bag, and they check if it has been less than 24h since it was purchased, they inspect the seals, and they let you through if everything is in order.
    - eptcyka 6y ago
      I don't want anything to do with seats on planes that have had liquids deposited onto them.
  - dmacedo 6y ago
    You can from duty free, just nothing that you bring from outside the airport that goes with your carry-on that passes through security. Your luggage can carry spirits or whatever other drinks you want, just not carry-on though. For... Safety reasons, obviously.
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  - bayindirh 6y ago
    Duty free shops put your bottles in a sealed transparent bag with the receipt, everything is perfectly visible. You're not allowed to open the bag on the flight, obviously.
  - masklinn 6y ago
    > Can you not take spirits, wine, or beer (sealed) on a flight in the EU? How do duty free shops work if that’s the case? The duty free is inside the secure area, you've already passed security.
  - tsimionescu 6y ago
    For checked-in bags, there is no limit in the EU at all as far as I know. The problem is with carry-on, where you are extremely limited in the quantity of liquids you can get past security - no more than ~100ml, and even then it must be in a bottle inside a clear plastic bag.
    - buzer 6y ago
      There probably isn't an EU-level limit, but member countries can set them. In Finland you can bring as much as you want for your own use, but past some point you need to be able to actually prove that it's for your own use. Current guidelines are: 110 liters of beer, 10 liters of other alcohol drinks, 20 liters of max 22 % intermediate products, 90 liters of wines or fermented long drinks/ciders. Common reasons for bringing more than that are e.g. your own wedding.
  - jerrysievert 6y ago
    when flying back from china, the duty free shop asked me what my next airport was (Seattle) and whether it was a connecting flight or not (it was). at that point, they told me that they wouldn't sell me anything, as I would have it confiscated. they were correct, the international arrivals required another bag check to enter the domestic part of the airport, that had the stringent TSA rules (after you went through customs and collected your luggage, before you could drop your luggage off again for your next flight). so, it appears to be airport by airport when traveling to the US.
    - vinay427 6y ago
      Just to confirm, you had a bag check for checked baggage after customs and before your domestic flight, and this was done by the TSA? I've flown into and around the US countless times, including international to domestic connections at SEA, and have never heard of this. Not doubting your experience because policies change, but every US airport I've flown into has customs and immigration after an international flight, and after re-checking in your hold baggage if you have any, virtually all then route you to the normal TSA check before a domestic flight unless there's an airside transfer option directly to the gates.
      - jerrysievert 6y ago
        you exited the international flight, went through customs, picked up your luggage, and then if you were continuing on to a domestic flight (which required getting past the secured area to the monorail), then you had to go through security again. at this point, you could no longer have anything in your checked baggage that could not go through standard TSA security, as you were already inside the secured area. some airlines (Alaska, for instance) allowed you to check your baggage PAST that security area, but you still had to make it past. since you had already picked up your checked baggage, and no longer could get to any connecting flights without either exiting the airport completely (far away from other flights), or going through security again with your luggage to continue to the monorail, you were pretty much screwed. editing to add: there were a lot of very unhappy people who had their airline provided or purchased past security water bottles being taken away before they could continue to their domestic flights. I have no clue exactly how far I would have had to walk outside of security to get to the domestic terminal, but my flight was so soon that I would never have chanced it. double editing to add that I've flown international through other airports and never had that type of experience other than through Seattle. triple editing to note that even SEATAC seemed to think this was a mess and the new international arrivals terminal is due to open "soon".
1996 6y ago
> „But the customs made me throw it away before the return flight. I couldn’t even take a sip.”" B.S. Before a flight, a highly paid (given what they do) security theather monkey tried to demand that I forfeit an expensive bottle. Knowing full well how it works in most countries, where the loots are split at the end of the day, I said "watch this", chugged it down, and voluntarily surrendered the now empty bottle. At least I enjoyed it partly! Even if later I did throw up during the flight, I prefer being sick than my luxury bottle being stolen by a security theater monkey.
- layoutIfNeeded 6y ago
  Sounds like a good way to get alcohol poisoning.
  - 1996 6y ago
    The human body is wonderfully done: you then throw up. It was a smelly flight however. Sorry, plane ground! Sorry, seat neighbours! But it was funny when the stewardess asked my why I was sick: I just told the truth, I was drunk! What was she going to do anyway? Throw me out of the first class and into the main cabin?
- Y_Y 6y ago
  Were you this guy who almost died? https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/defying-airport-security-man-nearly-dies-after-drinking-bottle-of-vodka-a-523106.html https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/defying-airpo... Or this woman who similarly risked death? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/25/woman-downs-whole-bottle-of-cognac-at-beijing-airport-security-control https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/25/woman-downs-wh...
  - 1996 6y ago
    I feel pride to see I'm not the only one doing this! > “She was rolling on the ground, shouting" She needs to learn to hold her liquor better.
gaucheph 6y ago
what's the significance of this distinction?
- graeme 6y ago
  Accuracy? Always worth striving for. For example it’s akin to saying “the police made me go through a metal detector” if building security did or “the nurse gave me CPR” when a lifeguard did. They’re....close but it isn’t the same. In case you were asking literally: security are the people that make you throw out liquids due to bomb threats and check for weapons. Customs see you after the plane across a border and check that you didn’t bring anything that requires payment of border tax. If you do, they will make you pay the tax at the border before entry.

raverbashing 6y ago

Yes (he should have known not to take liquids as hand-luggage on a flight) Edit: as hand-luggage

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toomuchtodo 6y ago
Can you not take spirits, wine, or beer (sealed) on a flight in the EU? EDIT: Removed question about duty free, answered by replies below. Odd, as in the US, there is no limit if in your checked baggage if below 24% ABV, and 5 liters if 24% - 70% (carry on has much stricter limits [3.4oz or less that can fit comfortably in one quart-sized, clear, zip-top bag], but is still permitted). https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/06/21/tsa-travel-tip-traveling-alcohol https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/06/21/tsa-travel-tip-traveling...
- Ekaros 6y ago
  They are after the checkpoints and they are marked. So you can take them on board. But that likely won't work for next flight if you have to through security again... Also some airlines sell stuff that is directly deposited on your seat.
  - tsimionescu 6y ago
    You can buy it from a duty-free shop even if you have multiple flights, even if you have to transfer out of the security area - they seal it in a special bag with receipts attached; when you go to your next security check-in, you present the sealed bag, and they check if it has been less than 24h since it was purchased, they inspect the seals, and they let you through if everything is in order.
  - eptcyka 6y ago
    I don't want anything to do with seats on planes that have had liquids deposited onto them.
- dmacedo 6y ago
  You can from duty free, just nothing that you bring from outside the airport that goes with your carry-on that passes through security. Your luggage can carry spirits or whatever other drinks you want, just not carry-on though. For... Safety reasons, obviously.
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
- bayindirh 6y ago
  Duty free shops put your bottles in a sealed transparent bag with the receipt, everything is perfectly visible. You're not allowed to open the bag on the flight, obviously.
- masklinn 6y ago
  > Can you not take spirits, wine, or beer (sealed) on a flight in the EU? How do duty free shops work if that’s the case? The duty free is inside the secure area, you've already passed security.
- tsimionescu 6y ago
  For checked-in bags, there is no limit in the EU at all as far as I know. The problem is with carry-on, where you are extremely limited in the quantity of liquids you can get past security - no more than ~100ml, and even then it must be in a bottle inside a clear plastic bag.
  - buzer 6y ago
    There probably isn't an EU-level limit, but member countries can set them. In Finland you can bring as much as you want for your own use, but past some point you need to be able to actually prove that it's for your own use. Current guidelines are: 110 liters of beer, 10 liters of other alcohol drinks, 20 liters of max 22 % intermediate products, 90 liters of wines or fermented long drinks/ciders. Common reasons for bringing more than that are e.g. your own wedding.
- jerrysievert 6y ago
  when flying back from china, the duty free shop asked me what my next airport was (Seattle) and whether it was a connecting flight or not (it was). at that point, they told me that they wouldn't sell me anything, as I would have it confiscated. they were correct, the international arrivals required another bag check to enter the domestic part of the airport, that had the stringent TSA rules (after you went through customs and collected your luggage, before you could drop your luggage off again for your next flight). so, it appears to be airport by airport when traveling to the US.
  - vinay427 6y ago
    Just to confirm, you had a bag check for checked baggage after customs and before your domestic flight, and this was done by the TSA? I've flown into and around the US countless times, including international to domestic connections at SEA, and have never heard of this. Not doubting your experience because policies change, but every US airport I've flown into has customs and immigration after an international flight, and after re-checking in your hold baggage if you have any, virtually all then route you to the normal TSA check before a domestic flight unless there's an airside transfer option directly to the gates.
    - jerrysievert 6y ago
      you exited the international flight, went through customs, picked up your luggage, and then if you were continuing on to a domestic flight (which required getting past the secured area to the monorail), then you had to go through security again. at this point, you could no longer have anything in your checked baggage that could not go through standard TSA security, as you were already inside the secured area. some airlines (Alaska, for instance) allowed you to check your baggage PAST that security area, but you still had to make it past. since you had already picked up your checked baggage, and no longer could get to any connecting flights without either exiting the airport completely (far away from other flights), or going through security again with your luggage to continue to the monorail, you were pretty much screwed. editing to add: there were a lot of very unhappy people who had their airline provided or purchased past security water bottles being taken away before they could continue to their domestic flights. I have no clue exactly how far I would have had to walk outside of security to get to the domestic terminal, but my flight was so soon that I would never have chanced it. double editing to add that I've flown international through other airports and never had that type of experience other than through Seattle. triple editing to note that even SEATAC seemed to think this was a mess and the new international arrivals terminal is due to open "soon".

1996 6y ago

> „But the customs made me throw it away before the return flight. I couldn’t even take a sip.”" B.S. Before a flight, a highly paid (given what they do) security theather monkey tried to demand that I forfeit an expensive bottle. Knowing full well how it works in most countries, where the loots are split at the end of the day, I said "watch this", chugged it down, and voluntarily surrendered the now empty bottle. At least I enjoyed it partly! Even if later I did throw up during the flight, I prefer being sick than my luxury bottle being stolen by a security theater monkey.

layoutIfNeeded 6y ago
Sounds like a good way to get alcohol poisoning.
- 1996 6y ago
  The human body is wonderfully done: you then throw up. It was a smelly flight however. Sorry, plane ground! Sorry, seat neighbours! But it was funny when the stewardess asked my why I was sick: I just told the truth, I was drunk! What was she going to do anyway? Throw me out of the first class and into the main cabin?
Y_Y 6y ago
Were you this guy who almost died? https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/defying-airport-security-man-nearly-dies-after-drinking-bottle-of-vodka-a-523106.html https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/defying-airpo... Or this woman who similarly risked death? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/25/woman-downs-whole-bottle-of-cognac-at-beijing-airport-security-control https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/25/woman-downs-wh...
- 1996 6y ago
  I feel pride to see I'm not the only one doing this! > “She was rolling on the ground, shouting" She needs to learn to hold her liquor better.

gaucheph 6y ago

what's the significance of this distinction?

graeme 6y ago
Accuracy? Always worth striving for. For example it’s akin to saying “the police made me go through a metal detector” if building security did or “the nurse gave me CPR” when a lifeguard did. They’re....close but it isn’t the same. In case you were asking literally: security are the people that make you throw out liquids due to bomb threats and check for weapons. Customs see you after the plane across a border and check that you didn’t bring anything that requires payment of border tax. If you do, they will make you pay the tax at the border before entry.