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Here's the source: https://www.spiegel.de/international/business/whatsapp-ceo-on-the-controversy-surrounding-proposed-german-communications-laws-a-2e6f4c52-4a39

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Here's the source: https://www.spiegel.de/international/business/whatsapp-ceo-on-the-controversy-surrounding-proposed-german-communications-laws-a-2e6f4c52-4a39-4117-8199-1606e1f3ac87 https://www.spiegel.de/international/business/whatsapp-ceo-o... Quote: "Cathcart: It’s true that we do have some information about how people use WhatsApp and that we do know, for example, the device ID. We collect this only to secure our services and protect from attacks. When you use WhatsApp and allow access to your phone book, we only see the phone numbers, not the name. DER SPIEGEL: Do you share these numbers with your parent company Facebook? Cathcart: No, we don’t. The updated privacy policies will actually not change anything globally in our ability to share data with Facebook."

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“The updated privacy policies will actually not change anything globally in our ability to share data with Facebook.” I don’t see how that “globally” can be true. If one compares the WhatsApp terms of service in the EEA (https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/terms-of-service-eea/?lang=en https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/terms-of-service-eea/...) with those elsewhere (https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/terms-of-service/?lang=en https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/terms-of-service/?lan...), you’ll see the latter adds: Affiliated Companies. We are part of the Facebook Companies. As part of the Facebook Companies, WhatsApp receives information from, and shares information with, the Facebook Companies as described in WhatsApp's Privacy Policy, including to provide integrations which enable you to connect your WhatsApp experience with other Facebook Company Products; to ensure security, safety, and integrity across the Facebook Company Products; and to improve your ads and products experience across the Facebook Company Products. Learn more about the Facebook Companies and their terms and policies here. AFAIK, that addition was what caused the uproar earlier this year. (Also note the dark pattern in both terms of service that seed confusion as to which are the ones that apply to the EU. In the first sentence, “If you live in the European Region, WhatsApp Ireland Limited provides the Services to you under this Terms of Service and Privacy Policy.”, ‘this’ doesn’t refer to the text you’re reading, but to the texts behind the hyperlinks)

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“The updated privacy policies will actually not change anything globally in our ability to share data with Facebook.” I don’t see how that “globally” can be true. If one compares the WhatsApp terms of service in the EEA (https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/terms-of-service-eea/?lang=en https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/terms-of-service-eea/...) with those elsewhere (https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/terms-of-service/?lang=en https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/terms-of-service/?lan...), you’ll see the latter adds: Affiliated Companies. We are part of the Facebook Companies. As part of the Facebook Companies, WhatsApp receives information from, and shares information with, the Facebook Companies as described in WhatsApp's Privacy Policy, including to provide integrations which enable you to connect your WhatsApp experience with other Facebook Company Products; to ensure security, safety, and integrity across the Facebook Company Products; and to improve your ads and products experience across the Facebook Company Products. Learn more about the Facebook Companies and their terms and policies here. AFAIK, that addition was what caused the uproar earlier this year. (Also note the dark pattern in both terms of service that seed confusion as to which are the ones that apply to the EU. In the first sentence, “If you live in the European Region, WhatsApp Ireland Limited provides the Services to you under this Terms of Service and Privacy Policy.”, ‘this’ doesn’t refer to the text you’re reading, but to the texts behind the hyperlinks)