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Tolerance is the plea of the dissident. Once he has assumed control he no longer has need for it and those who opposed him will not be so lucky.

enriquto 6y ago
this is the most totalitarian shit I've read in years
- ryanmarsh 6y ago
  but it is how revolutions work, no?
  - disgrunt 6y ago
    Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
- didi987 6y ago
  Its basic strategy. LGBT groups wanted tolerance in the 1970s, but now sue you out of business if you don't make a "transition-party cake". Same could be said for Muslims in Europe: they want tolerance now because their numbers are small, but when they get the majority, they might want to change a few things. https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-03-22/colorado-baker-sued-for-refusing-gender-transition-cake https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-03-22/col...
  - klyrs 6y ago
    No, we've been fighting for equality, not simple tolerance. And btw, the cake maker won that case in court. If my business openly discriminated against Christians, you bet your ass I'd get sued into oblivion.
    - themgt 6y ago
      If you were a devout Muslim baker and a Christian came in and ordered a hand-crafted cake with the message "Jesus is Lord and the one true king", you think you would be legally compelled to create it for them?
      - klyrs 6y ago
        No, but read up on McDonald's v McDonald's. Welcome to America, lawsuits can bankrupt you even if you win
  - dang 6y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. Let alone religious flamewar, god help us. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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dang 6y ago
Please don't post generic ideological rhetoric to HN. It leads to generic ideological flamewars, which are boring because they're predictable and nasty. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=generic%20ideolog%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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enriquto 6y ago

this is the most totalitarian shit I've read in years

ryanmarsh 6y ago
but it is how revolutions work, no?
- disgrunt 6y ago
  Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
didi987 6y ago
Its basic strategy. LGBT groups wanted tolerance in the 1970s, but now sue you out of business if you don't make a "transition-party cake". Same could be said for Muslims in Europe: they want tolerance now because their numbers are small, but when they get the majority, they might want to change a few things. https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-03-22/colorado-baker-sued-for-refusing-gender-transition-cake https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-03-22/col...
- klyrs 6y ago
  No, we've been fighting for equality, not simple tolerance. And btw, the cake maker won that case in court. If my business openly discriminated against Christians, you bet your ass I'd get sued into oblivion.
  - themgt 6y ago
    If you were a devout Muslim baker and a Christian came in and ordered a hand-crafted cake with the message "Jesus is Lord and the one true king", you think you would be legally compelled to create it for them?
    - klyrs 6y ago
      No, but read up on McDonald's v McDonald's. Welcome to America, lawsuits can bankrupt you even if you win
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. Let alone religious flamewar, god help us. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 6y ago
Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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dang 6y ago

Please don't post generic ideological rhetoric to HN. It leads to generic ideological flamewars, which are boring because they're predictable and nasty. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=generic%20ideolog%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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