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In the US many businesses are required to have bathrooms but they can and do make them for customers only. That combined with a lack of public bathrooms (not ju

In the US many businesses are required to have bathrooms but they can and do make them for customers only. That combined with a lack of public bathrooms (not just a lack - they effectively do not exist here) leaves many workers with no other option.

dominotw 6y ago
> but they can and do make them for customers only. Starbucks doesn't anymore after the PR incident couple of years ago. There are 15k Starbucks in USA.
- capableweb 6y ago
  That about 1 Starbuck for every 600km², hardly a replacement for public bathrooms.
  - dominotw 6y ago
    Sure. How many public restrooms do you think USA should have?
    - Frost1x 6y ago
      More than Starbucks alone can or should be forced to provide. Where that number lies I'm not entirely sure, but I imagine interstate commerce and population densities would be a pretty good starting point.
    - howinteresting 6y ago
      1% of the population, so around 3 million, would be a good starting point.
  - jjtheblunt 6y ago
    of course the vast majority of the US is open land, still, far from any Starbucks or humans, so the distribution of Starbucks places them close to humans for some huge percentile of humans at any given point in time in the US, by design of course.
rufus_foreman 6y ago
"In 1969, California Assemblywoman March Fong Eu smashed a porcelain toilet with an axe in front of the California state capitol, protesting the misogyny of restrooms that charged entrance fees for stalls but not urinals. She was not alone in her frustration. The grassroots organization CEPTIA—the Committee to End Pay Toilets in America—mobilized against pay toilets, putting out a quarterly newsletter (the Free Toilet Paper) and exchanging warring pamphlets with Nik-O-Lok, the leading pay-toilet manufacturer. The group won a citywide ordinance banning pay toilets in Chicago in 1973, followed by bans in Alaska, California, Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, and Wyoming." -- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-19/why-the-u-s-should-give-pay-toilets-another-chance https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-19/why-the-u... If the government makes it illegal to profit from providing a good or service, fewer people will provide that good or service.

dominotw 6y ago

> but they can and do make them for customers only. Starbucks doesn't anymore after the PR incident couple of years ago. There are 15k Starbucks in USA.

capableweb 6y ago
That about 1 Starbuck for every 600km², hardly a replacement for public bathrooms.
- dominotw 6y ago
  Sure. How many public restrooms do you think USA should have?
  - Frost1x 6y ago
    More than Starbucks alone can or should be forced to provide. Where that number lies I'm not entirely sure, but I imagine interstate commerce and population densities would be a pretty good starting point.
  - howinteresting 6y ago
    1% of the population, so around 3 million, would be a good starting point.
- jjtheblunt 6y ago
  of course the vast majority of the US is open land, still, far from any Starbucks or humans, so the distribution of Starbucks places them close to humans for some huge percentile of humans at any given point in time in the US, by design of course.

rufus_foreman 6y ago

"In 1969, California Assemblywoman March Fong Eu smashed a porcelain toilet with an axe in front of the California state capitol, protesting the misogyny of restrooms that charged entrance fees for stalls but not urinals. She was not alone in her frustration. The grassroots organization CEPTIA—the Committee to End Pay Toilets in America—mobilized against pay toilets, putting out a quarterly newsletter (the Free Toilet Paper) and exchanging warring pamphlets with Nik-O-Lok, the leading pay-toilet manufacturer. The group won a citywide ordinance banning pay toilets in Chicago in 1973, followed by bans in Alaska, California, Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, and Wyoming." -- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-19/why-the-u-s-should-give-pay-toilets-another-chance https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-19/why-the-u... If the government makes it illegal to profit from providing a good or service, fewer people will provide that good or service.