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These events are not a matter of if but when. And since the overwhelming majority of the people in my social circles has zero understanding of the real nature o

These events are not a matter of if but when. And since the overwhelming majority of the people in my social circles has zero understanding of the real nature of the relationship between them - FB users and FB I just hope this will become increasingly frequent and painful experience for them. As in: I really hope this will get FB users in trouble as a result of identity theft etc. This may sound extremely cynical but at this point it's the only way for the non-technical folk to understand the implications of giving away your privacy so that you can share cat pictures with other people.

asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
> people in my social circles ... I just hope this will become increasingly frequent and painful experience for them. Very strange to wish harm upon your friends with the hope that that will convince them to join your side in a political fight! I would suggest instead that you only wish that if it becomes a painful experience, they would realize why and renegotiate their relationship with FB. Typically wishing pain on your friends is not a good stance.
- brettermeier 6y ago
  true
- sidlls 6y ago
  Not that strange. The whole "rock bottom" concept for addicts is similar, right? Sometimes you have to see a friend or family member truly experience real pain to get them to want to change. People are like that.
  - nonbirithm 6y ago
    The sad fact is that as much as I wanted to believe that positive reinforcement was "better" for me because it was supposedly "better" for people in general, in practice it's only ever been negative reinforcement that has enacted any change in my life. Trying to deny that fact for so long only accomplished setting my life back by several years. Even the simplest things like dental hygiene only became habits because I suffered catastrophic losses from neglecting them. I think it's because my imagination of the failing scenario will never compare to the experience of the failure itself. Whereas if there's no singular point at which the failure becomes obvious and decidedly life-changing, then...
- smolder 6y ago
  It's a pretty minor harm and it's one somewhat like ripping a band-aid off. The pain will come sooner or later since we (at least in the US) aren't addressing the irresponsible data practices in industry. The sooner people detach themselves from the likes of FB, the better off they'll be when leaks happen.
ve55 6y ago
I think it would take more than this to be leaked, particularly if users had their 'private' messages on services leaked, then they would start to realize it. I think most normal people acknowledge that so many companies know their phone number and name that they may be past caring.
KMag 6y ago
It became necessary to destroy the town to save it?

asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago

> people in my social circles ... I just hope this will become increasingly frequent and painful experience for them. Very strange to wish harm upon your friends with the hope that that will convince them to join your side in a political fight! I would suggest instead that you only wish that if it becomes a painful experience, they would realize why and renegotiate their relationship with FB. Typically wishing pain on your friends is not a good stance.

brettermeier 6y ago
true
sidlls 6y ago
Not that strange. The whole "rock bottom" concept for addicts is similar, right? Sometimes you have to see a friend or family member truly experience real pain to get them to want to change. People are like that.
- nonbirithm 6y ago
  The sad fact is that as much as I wanted to believe that positive reinforcement was "better" for me because it was supposedly "better" for people in general, in practice it's only ever been negative reinforcement that has enacted any change in my life. Trying to deny that fact for so long only accomplished setting my life back by several years. Even the simplest things like dental hygiene only became habits because I suffered catastrophic losses from neglecting them. I think it's because my imagination of the failing scenario will never compare to the experience of the failure itself. Whereas if there's no singular point at which the failure becomes obvious and decidedly life-changing, then...
smolder 6y ago
It's a pretty minor harm and it's one somewhat like ripping a band-aid off. The pain will come sooner or later since we (at least in the US) aren't addressing the irresponsible data practices in industry. The sooner people detach themselves from the likes of FB, the better off they'll be when leaks happen.

ve55 6y ago

I think it would take more than this to be leaked, particularly if users had their 'private' messages on services leaked, then they would start to realize it. I think most normal people acknowledge that so many companies know their phone number and name that they may be past caring.

KMag 6y ago

It became necessary to destroy the town to save it?