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I hate to say it, but universal ID and a deny-list would stop it easily. You let the bathroom verify your ID, and if you leave the place a mess the you no longe

I hate to say it, but universal ID and a deny-list would stop it easily. You let the bathroom verify your ID, and if you leave the place a mess the you no longer have bathroom privileges. It would let you keep great public access, keep toilets simple, and only pass the "costs" of bad-behaviour to those that deserve it. Having ID to take a piss is a bit weird however.

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MaxBarraclough 6y ago
There are lots of advantages to universal ID cards, but that doesn't erase their considerable problems. [0] Anyway, how would you identify who spoiled the bathroom? [0] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/01/realid_costs_an.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/01/realid_costs_...
- benjohnson 6y ago
  Have the ID scanner and camera be all in one - leaving your ID in it physically blocks the camera.
leetcrew 6y ago
I'd guess the type of person who would trash a public restroom is also pretty likely to just relieve themselves in the street after being banned. not sure what problem this solves.
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- lotsofpulp 6y ago
  It solves the problem of excessive costs of cleaning and fixing bathrooms by decreasing the probability of someone destroying the bathroom.
wyre 6y ago
Being able to use a bathroom should be a right, not a t that could be taken away.
mindslight 6y ago
If you hate to say it, then don't say it. Sure, it seems like everything would be so much simpler if we could merely sort everybody into two groups of good people and bad people, and punish the bad people. That's the tired old authoritarian fallacy. In reality, you've got an endless supply of people who will make a mess once with your unpopular system and not care, good faith accidents unable to make amends, people that refuse to show IDs and piss on the reader on general principle, people unjustly blamed by your system for someone else's mess with no appeal, fake IDs, and inevitable tie in to other delusional top-down systems that multiply these problems.

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MaxBarraclough 6y ago

There are lots of advantages to universal ID cards, but that doesn't erase their considerable problems. [0] Anyway, how would you identify who spoiled the bathroom? [0] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/01/realid_costs_an.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/01/realid_costs_...

benjohnson 6y ago
Have the ID scanner and camera be all in one - leaving your ID in it physically blocks the camera.

leetcrew 6y ago

I'd guess the type of person who would trash a public restroom is also pretty likely to just relieve themselves in the street after being banned. not sure what problem this solves.

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lotsofpulp 6y ago
It solves the problem of excessive costs of cleaning and fixing bathrooms by decreasing the probability of someone destroying the bathroom.

wyre 6y ago

Being able to use a bathroom should be a right, not a t that could be taken away.

mindslight 6y ago

If you hate to say it, then don't say it. Sure, it seems like everything would be so much simpler if we could merely sort everybody into two groups of good people and bad people, and punish the bad people. That's the tired old authoritarian fallacy. In reality, you've got an endless supply of people who will make a mess once with your unpopular system and not care, good faith accidents unable to make amends, people that refuse to show IDs and piss on the reader on general principle, people unjustly blamed by your system for someone else's mess with no appeal, fake IDs, and inevitable tie in to other delusional top-down systems that multiply these problems.