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How about Amazon slightly reduces the expectations that they place on drivers and allow them unpunished time to take piss breaks on the clock? How about they p

How about Amazon slightly reduces the expectations that they place on drivers and allow them unpunished time to take piss breaks on the clock? How about they pay staff to go through security screenings? How about they pay staff for time transiting to and from the break rooms? That's the floor. The bare ** minimum Amazon should be doing. Their staff are not slaves, or servants. They are human beings and deserve far more than the spiteful pittance Amazon provides them.

bushbaba 6y ago
You assume the drivers would shift usage to use a facility vs a bottle. Say using the bottle shaves off 15-30mins compared to the bathroom. I’m sure many would still prefer to get home 15-30min early.
- random314 6y ago
  No, I don't think so at all! They would much rather use a toilet!
- saghm 6y ago
  It would be nice to have the option to choose though, wouldn't it?
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
  Another way to say it is that they'd rather get an extra 15-30 minutes of work done. Because if enough people start going home 15-30min early, management gets excited and raises the bar by adding work, so now you do the extra 15-30min of work (by peeing in the bottle) or risk not keeping up. I'm sure many would prefer peeing in the bottle to risking not keeping up, but that isn't the kind of choice where we say 'great, let them do it, it makes them happy.'
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
  How about we ask the drivers how they like taking a shit in an unairconditioned truck in Texas summer heat and if they'd rather have the time allowance too stop at a rest stop along their route? I, for one, having been in similar situations, would rather get home fifteen minutes later, or an hour, than shit in a bag. Or piss in a bottle.
krapp 6y ago
No, they're probably going to keep doing exactly what they've been doing because they know that these PR embarrassments are far more ephemeral than their market position. The consumer base cares more about cost and convenience than Amazon's ethics, and will have forgiven and forgotten within a week.
quonn 6y ago
Of course, I agree. I was merely talking about their statement.

bushbaba 6y ago

You assume the drivers would shift usage to use a facility vs a bottle. Say using the bottle shaves off 15-30mins compared to the bathroom. I’m sure many would still prefer to get home 15-30min early.

random314 6y ago
No, I don't think so at all! They would much rather use a toilet!
saghm 6y ago
It would be nice to have the option to choose though, wouldn't it?
6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
Another way to say it is that they'd rather get an extra 15-30 minutes of work done. Because if enough people start going home 15-30min early, management gets excited and raises the bar by adding work, so now you do the extra 15-30min of work (by peeing in the bottle) or risk not keeping up. I'm sure many would prefer peeing in the bottle to risking not keeping up, but that isn't the kind of choice where we say 'great, let them do it, it makes them happy.'
Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
How about we ask the drivers how they like taking a shit in an unairconditioned truck in Texas summer heat and if they'd rather have the time allowance too stop at a rest stop along their route? I, for one, having been in similar situations, would rather get home fifteen minutes later, or an hour, than shit in a bag. Or piss in a bottle.

krapp 6y ago

No, they're probably going to keep doing exactly what they've been doing because they know that these PR embarrassments are far more ephemeral than their market position. The consumer base cares more about cost and convenience than Amazon's ethics, and will have forgiven and forgotten within a week.

quonn 6y ago

Of course, I agree. I was merely talking about their statement.