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> What is the f*cking point of cmd-tabbing to an application if you don't make its window visible!? What if you have multiple windows of the same application,

by usaphp 6y ago

> What is the f*cking point of cmd-tabbing to an application if you don't make its window visible!? What if you have multiple windows of the same application, and you minimize one of them, then auto opening of that window everytime you switch back to the app will be super annoying.

mromanuk 6y ago
And if you want to open the minimized or hidden window, after cmd-tab, do a option-cmd-tab and finally release cmd-tab. The window will get focus
- deleted 6y ago
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- blunte 6y ago
  What is the more common case: a user switches to a hidden app and then does NOT want to actually see a window from that app, or the user switches to an app and wants to see it. I don't need to do research to answer this question. If a user switches to an app, it's because they want to use that app. And using most apps depends heavily on being able to see them. If I want to control things without a UI, I'll go to terminal.
  - mromanuk 6y ago
    It really shine in this use case: Because only he app menu is visible, sometimes, you can open|create a file without cluttering your desktop. It’s ok for document based apps
  - chrisweekly 6y ago
    I agree w you in principle, but the minor ergonomic friction -- adding the option key to alt-tab to restore and focus a minimized window -- is not a big deal to me. That said, I never got in the habit of minimizing windows (partly bc I didn't know about the keyboard-only way to restore them), so it's a non-issue for me.
tomaskafka 6y ago
Just take me to most recent non-minimized window of that app. And if there is no such window left, and I told system that I want to switch to the app, then yes, of course I want the most recent window unminimized. This isn't rocket science.
- blunte 6y ago
  This exactly.
- toxik 6y ago
  I think there’s a setting for this behavior, or there used to be at least. Edit ah. no it’s when you click the app icon in the dock. I guess that’s the behavior sought here?
  - tomaskafka 6y ago
    Yes - I'd like this to happen when I cmd+tab to app.
- mistersquid 6y ago
  > And if there is no such window left, and I told system that I want to switch to the app, then yes, of course I want the most recent window unminimized. If one is screensharing or presenting to an audience and the only windows in the target app are minimized but contain sensitive information, one most certainly would not want one of those minimized windows to reveal. As a sibling to your comment points out, the solution is to hold the option key down while releasing the command key. This verifies a user’s intention to reveal the first-minimized window.
  - barrkel 6y ago
    Alt-tabbing in the middle of a presentation risks displaying random information no matter what. You could tab to browser showing mail, or to Slack, or a PDF viewer showing your latest payslip, or whatever. If you have sensitive information or something which might show alerts in the middle of an important presentation, you should probably close such apps and / or mute their notifications.

by usaphp 6y ago

mromanuk 6y ago

And if you want to open the minimized or hidden window, after cmd-tab, do a option-cmd-tab and finally release cmd-tab. The window will get focus

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blunte 6y ago
What is the more common case: a user switches to a hidden app and then does NOT want to actually see a window from that app, or the user switches to an app and wants to see it. I don't need to do research to answer this question. If a user switches to an app, it's because they want to use that app. And using most apps depends heavily on being able to see them. If I want to control things without a UI, I'll go to terminal.
- mromanuk 6y ago
  It really shine in this use case: Because only he app menu is visible, sometimes, you can open|create a file without cluttering your desktop. It’s ok for document based apps
- chrisweekly 6y ago
  I agree w you in principle, but the minor ergonomic friction -- adding the option key to alt-tab to restore and focus a minimized window -- is not a big deal to me. That said, I never got in the habit of minimizing windows (partly bc I didn't know about the keyboard-only way to restore them), so it's a non-issue for me.

tomaskafka 6y ago

Just take me to most recent non-minimized window of that app. And if there is no such window left, and I told system that I want to switch to the app, then yes, of course I want the most recent window unminimized. This isn't rocket science.

blunte 6y ago
This exactly.
toxik 6y ago
I think there’s a setting for this behavior, or there used to be at least. Edit ah. no it’s when you click the app icon in the dock. I guess that’s the behavior sought here?
- tomaskafka 6y ago
  Yes - I'd like this to happen when I cmd+tab to app.
mistersquid 6y ago
> And if there is no such window left, and I told system that I want to switch to the app, then yes, of course I want the most recent window unminimized. If one is screensharing or presenting to an audience and the only windows in the target app are minimized but contain sensitive information, one most certainly would not want one of those minimized windows to reveal. As a sibling to your comment points out, the solution is to hold the option key down while releasing the command key. This verifies a user’s intention to reveal the first-minimized window.
- barrkel 6y ago
  Alt-tabbing in the middle of a presentation risks displaying random information no matter what. You could tab to browser showing mail, or to Slack, or a PDF viewer showing your latest payslip, or whatever. If you have sensitive information or something which might show alerts in the middle of an important presentation, you should probably close such apps and / or mute their notifications.