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The West is in decline and the US in particular is collapsing. Infrastructure is decaying to non-existent, the cultural output is absolute garbage, widespread p

The West is in decline and the US in particular is collapsing. Infrastructure is decaying to non-existent, the cultural output is absolute garbage, widespread poverty, political corruption, drug addiction, societal and racial tensions that are on the brink of a major cascade and an ideology of defeat.

viraptor 6y ago
That's an interesting list following a comment about China. At least corruption, social and racial tensions apply there too - I have no information about the rest. (Also not sure what "cultural output" really is in this context)
- ewindal 6y ago
  It’s pretty funny to point out racial tension in the US when discussing China, considering sinicization is clearly one of China’s overarching goals.
  - bilbyx 6y ago
    Your reply is pretty funny, considering the US has been forcing Americanization onto so many other countries through wars, inciting coups, and training terrorists to do their dirty deeds (this had backfired in the middle-east). Please get some education in history and you'll know who has been the aggressor here.
    - viraptor 6y ago
      Nobody here is saying it doesn't apply to the US as well. Just that it can't be contrasted with China.
      - bilbyx 6y ago
        I agreed that it can't be contrasted with China. See http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/Imperialism/usmurder.html http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/Imperialism/usmurder..... If only US can focus on improving the welfare of its people, improving its infrastructures, funding new industries, subsidize education and health, instead of spending so much on futile wars overseas, it would not be in the situation it is in now. Sorry for going off-topic.
oftenwrong 6y ago
The US has a lot of infrastructure that was built around the same time period. That is why so much of it is reaching its end-of-life around the same time. The replacement phase for all of this infrastructure has not necessarily been planned for well, but we will have to see how it plays out. China has built at an even more aggressive pace and scale. It has built an unprecedented amount of infrastructure in an unbelievably short amount of time. That infrastructure will reach end-of-life all around the same time. It's likely going to end up as an infrastructure crisis at a level beyond what the US is suffering from now.
- crusty 6y ago
  "That infrastructure will reach end-of-life all around the same time." ... Not including the shoddy construction that seems to reach end-of-life almost immediately. *I am not claiming that all Chinese construction is shoddy, but adherence to code in building is clearly a significant issue and the only way it won't have multiplying effects to cost are if the only goal was the economic activity of the construction process and not at all the constructed result of the process.
sixQuarks 6y ago
Couldn’t agree more.

viraptor 6y ago

That's an interesting list following a comment about China. At least corruption, social and racial tensions apply there too - I have no information about the rest. (Also not sure what "cultural output" really is in this context)

ewindal 6y ago
It’s pretty funny to point out racial tension in the US when discussing China, considering sinicization is clearly one of China’s overarching goals.
- bilbyx 6y ago
  Your reply is pretty funny, considering the US has been forcing Americanization onto so many other countries through wars, inciting coups, and training terrorists to do their dirty deeds (this had backfired in the middle-east). Please get some education in history and you'll know who has been the aggressor here.
  - viraptor 6y ago
    Nobody here is saying it doesn't apply to the US as well. Just that it can't be contrasted with China.
    - bilbyx 6y ago
      I agreed that it can't be contrasted with China. See http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/Imperialism/usmurder.html http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/Imperialism/usmurder..... If only US can focus on improving the welfare of its people, improving its infrastructures, funding new industries, subsidize education and health, instead of spending so much on futile wars overseas, it would not be in the situation it is in now. Sorry for going off-topic.

oftenwrong 6y ago

The US has a lot of infrastructure that was built around the same time period. That is why so much of it is reaching its end-of-life around the same time. The replacement phase for all of this infrastructure has not necessarily been planned for well, but we will have to see how it plays out. China has built at an even more aggressive pace and scale. It has built an unprecedented amount of infrastructure in an unbelievably short amount of time. That infrastructure will reach end-of-life all around the same time. It's likely going to end up as an infrastructure crisis at a level beyond what the US is suffering from now.

crusty 6y ago
"That infrastructure will reach end-of-life all around the same time." ... Not including the shoddy construction that seems to reach end-of-life almost immediately. *I am not claiming that all Chinese construction is shoddy, but adherence to code in building is clearly a significant issue and the only way it won't have multiplying effects to cost are if the only goal was the economic activity of the construction process and not at all the constructed result of the process.

sixQuarks 6y ago

Couldn’t agree more.