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Ubuntu has a store, Steam allows (any/game related?) software, Itch/Humble are kinda common (again kinda gaming related) But buying little apps is simply not c

by herbst 6y ago

Ubuntu has a store, Steam allows (any/game related?) software, Itch/Humble are kinda common (again kinda gaming related) But buying little apps is simply not common on linux. Sure many would but why when you can just apt an easily alternative. If you produce niche or major software subscription, buying licenses and co are more common anyway.

sylvain_kerkour 6y ago
Thank you! I completely forgot that Steam is not for games only.
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loloquwowndueo 6y ago
Note though that the Ubuntu store is only for discovery, it doesn’t have any support for paid applications. It did, but this was deprecated a couple of years ago as the then Ubuntu store service started changing to accommodate snaps. Paid applications do exist but they must implement their own post-installation payment mechanism - the snap store doesn’t provide any facilities for this.
simulo 6y ago
Most what steam offers is game related, but the categories they have are rather broad, one of them being "utilities".
gnulinux 6y ago
> But buying little apps is simply not common on linux. Sure many would but why when you can just apt an easily alternative. Because I want to pay people to write good software for me. I hate using OSX and Windows, but I want to have a DAW like Logic etc. My only options are stuff like Ardour, which happen not to work on my computer (because linux audio system is broken) due to alsa/jack/pulseaudio weirdness. And I have no leverage over Ardour developers. All I can do is: * Look online to find solutions to my problem. This didn't lead anywhere. * Download Ardour code and understand how it connects to the audio device and reproduce it, this way I can see the error. Luckily I can read code, most consumers can't. * Send a message to Ardour devs/forums and cross fingers they help me out. I want a company that produces software like MSFT, AAPL, Adobe etc and make it linux first and GPL. I understand that this is a terrible business model, which is why I want to pay extra money for this shit. Like Logic on OSX is $200. I want to pay $300 something that's approximately like that but works on my distro as flawlessly as Logic works on OSX. I just want to not read pulse audio man files when I need a DAW, in exchange for $X * $200. I'm just daydreaming, I know this stuff will never happen. I'm not sure exactly why. I hate the modern software ecosystem.
- pta2002 6y ago
  Reaper is absolutely amazing, works on Linux just fine (natively! And supports LV2 plugins) and it's only $60 (and the demo version is a WinRar-like "I'm still using it" button). It's also a completely no-bullshit approach to software development, no subscriptions, nothing like that. Buy the license once, and upgrade to a commercial license (which is still less than the price of something like Ableton or Logic) if you are using it to make more than something like $20k. It's proprietary, but it's completely customizable, even coming with its own scripting engine. I think you should give it a shot, GPL is the only thing missing from your list of requirements, but it's also made by a small independent team that doesn't do the usual crap associated with bigger apps. A good alternative to JACK and PulseAudio is PipeWire, which for me has worked basically completely flawlessly and supports JACK and PulseAudio bridges natively.
  - gnulinux 6y ago
    Sounds good, I'll check it out. I was mostly giving DAW as an example though, same would go to any kind of specialized software. EDIT: unrelated but, from Reaper purchase page: > If you own multiple computers, you may install the same license key on all of them, as long as you only use REAPER on one computer at a time. I love this, let's not pretend people have a single computer. A have multiple linux workstations, and an OSX workstation. As long as it's me, the person who bought it, is using the software on different machines, I should be able to get away with single license.
    - pta2002 6y ago
      > I was mostly giving DAW as an example though, same would go to any kind of specialized software. Yep, I'd absolutely love a real Photoshop competitor made in a similar spirit to reaper. Photoshop just has too many niceties that something like gimp doesn't even come close to (one that comes to mind is Select Subject - has probably saved me hours of work and does a much better job than I ever could manually) > > If you own multiple computers, you may install the same license key on all of them, as long as you only use REAPER on one computer at a time. > I love this, let's not pretend people have a single computer. This is what I meant by no bullshit licensing, it's really refreshing to see a professional and competitive product be this way when it comes to user freedom. I'd like it to be open source, but this is probably the next best thing. Just a shame that most audio plugins don't follow the same philosophy, otherwise I'd happily be using just Linux for music production (though you can at least make most windows-only plugins work on linux through wine)

by herbst 6y ago

sylvain_kerkour 6y ago

Thank you! I completely forgot that Steam is not for games only.

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loloquwowndueo 6y ago

Note though that the Ubuntu store is only for discovery, it doesn’t have any support for paid applications. It did, but this was deprecated a couple of years ago as the then Ubuntu store service started changing to accommodate snaps. Paid applications do exist but they must implement their own post-installation payment mechanism - the snap store doesn’t provide any facilities for this.

simulo 6y ago

Most what steam offers is game related, but the categories they have are rather broad, one of them being "utilities".

gnulinux 6y ago

> But buying little apps is simply not common on linux. Sure many would but why when you can just apt an easily alternative. Because I want to pay people to write good software for me. I hate using OSX and Windows, but I want to have a DAW like Logic etc. My only options are stuff like Ardour, which happen not to work on my computer (because linux audio system is broken) due to alsa/jack/pulseaudio weirdness. And I have no leverage over Ardour developers. All I can do is: * Look online to find solutions to my problem. This didn't lead anywhere. * Download Ardour code and understand how it connects to the audio device and reproduce it, this way I can see the error. Luckily I can read code, most consumers can't. * Send a message to Ardour devs/forums and cross fingers they help me out. I want a company that produces software like MSFT, AAPL, Adobe etc and make it linux first and GPL. I understand that this is a terrible business model, which is why I want to pay extra money for this shit. Like Logic on OSX is $200. I want to pay $300 something that's approximately like that but works on my distro as flawlessly as Logic works on OSX. I just want to not read pulse audio man files when I need a DAW, in exchange for $X * $200. I'm just daydreaming, I know this stuff will never happen. I'm not sure exactly why. I hate the modern software ecosystem.

pta2002 6y ago
Reaper is absolutely amazing, works on Linux just fine (natively! And supports LV2 plugins) and it's only $60 (and the demo version is a WinRar-like "I'm still using it" button). It's also a completely no-bullshit approach to software development, no subscriptions, nothing like that. Buy the license once, and upgrade to a commercial license (which is still less than the price of something like Ableton or Logic) if you are using it to make more than something like $20k. It's proprietary, but it's completely customizable, even coming with its own scripting engine. I think you should give it a shot, GPL is the only thing missing from your list of requirements, but it's also made by a small independent team that doesn't do the usual crap associated with bigger apps. A good alternative to JACK and PulseAudio is PipeWire, which for me has worked basically completely flawlessly and supports JACK and PulseAudio bridges natively.
- gnulinux 6y ago
  Sounds good, I'll check it out. I was mostly giving DAW as an example though, same would go to any kind of specialized software. EDIT: unrelated but, from Reaper purchase page: > If you own multiple computers, you may install the same license key on all of them, as long as you only use REAPER on one computer at a time. I love this, let's not pretend people have a single computer. A have multiple linux workstations, and an OSX workstation. As long as it's me, the person who bought it, is using the software on different machines, I should be able to get away with single license.
  - pta2002 6y ago
    > I was mostly giving DAW as an example though, same would go to any kind of specialized software. Yep, I'd absolutely love a real Photoshop competitor made in a similar spirit to reaper. Photoshop just has too many niceties that something like gimp doesn't even come close to (one that comes to mind is Select Subject - has probably saved me hours of work and does a much better job than I ever could manually) > > If you own multiple computers, you may install the same license key on all of them, as long as you only use REAPER on one computer at a time. > I love this, let's not pretend people have a single computer. This is what I meant by no bullshit licensing, it's really refreshing to see a professional and competitive product be this way when it comes to user freedom. I'd like it to be open source, but this is probably the next best thing. Just a shame that most audio plugins don't follow the same philosophy, otherwise I'd happily be using just Linux for music production (though you can at least make most windows-only plugins work on linux through wine)