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>If you like Mac, then stay on Mac, and stop publishing articles on how good Macs are and how Linux is neat, but your time is so valuable that you can't spend l

by konart 6y ago

>If you like Mac, then stay on Mac, and stop publishing articles on how good Macs are and how Linux is neat, but your time is so valuable that you can't spend learning a few commaind line tools. "Stop writing good things about things I hate and bad things about things I like!" > don't get why this narravitve still exists today. Linux works out of the box on many distros perfectly fine. Yeah. And then you connect two monitors with different scaling factor. Turns out X11 can't handle this and Wayland is still broken.

danieldk 6y ago
Yeah. And then you connect two monitors with different scaling factor. Turns out X11 can't handle this and Wayland is still broken Actually, this works fine in Wayland. I have used Wayland without any issues with amdgpu, including with mixed-DPI screens with GNOME's fractional scaling. However, things go downhill once you have to use X11 applications, and you typically do. E.g. JetBrains IDEs are a train wreck with fractional scaling enabled in GNOME on Wayland.
- konart 6y ago
  That's the problem. This work fine in Wayland but some things that were working fine on X11 do not. In the end you just give a sigh and go back to you macOS (assuming you were trying to switch). PS: for me though linux distro share the same problems they had back when I was using Ubuntu and the Arch before 2013. Not much have changed since then. Linux on a home\work pc is still mostly about freedom but mostly not about well build human-to-machine interface.
ActorNightly 6y ago
For every niche feature that you cant do on Linux, I can name a niche feature that you cant do on Mac. And for every reason that you tell me how its not an issue on Macs, I can also tell you that its not an issue on Linux. The point is that this is such a stupid conversation to have.
- konart 6y ago
  How is that a niche feature? A lot of people have double monitor setup. Sometimes with a different scaling factor. Both macOS and Windows can handle it just fine. Linux somehow is is still in the 90s in this regard. I do agree that the conversation about niche features (or issues) is stupid though. Not like I've started one.
  - ActorNightly 6y ago
    Double monitor setup works fine. Double monitor scaling setup is iffy. Also, speaking of external monitors and Macs "just working", google "mac external monitor not working after sleep", which is the problem that i definitely have on my work issued Mac, but not any of my linux laptops.

by konart 6y ago

danieldk 6y ago

Yeah. And then you connect two monitors with different scaling factor. Turns out X11 can't handle this and Wayland is still broken Actually, this works fine in Wayland. I have used Wayland without any issues with amdgpu, including with mixed-DPI screens with GNOME's fractional scaling. However, things go downhill once you have to use X11 applications, and you typically do. E.g. JetBrains IDEs are a train wreck with fractional scaling enabled in GNOME on Wayland.

konart 6y ago
That's the problem. This work fine in Wayland but some things that were working fine on X11 do not. In the end you just give a sigh and go back to you macOS (assuming you were trying to switch). PS: for me though linux distro share the same problems they had back when I was using Ubuntu and the Arch before 2013. Not much have changed since then. Linux on a home\work pc is still mostly about freedom but mostly not about well build human-to-machine interface.

ActorNightly 6y ago

For every niche feature that you cant do on Linux, I can name a niche feature that you cant do on Mac. And for every reason that you tell me how its not an issue on Macs, I can also tell you that its not an issue on Linux. The point is that this is such a stupid conversation to have.

konart 6y ago
How is that a niche feature? A lot of people have double monitor setup. Sometimes with a different scaling factor. Both macOS and Windows can handle it just fine. Linux somehow is is still in the 90s in this regard. I do agree that the conversation about niche features (or issues) is stupid though. Not like I've started one.
- ActorNightly 6y ago
  Double monitor setup works fine. Double monitor scaling setup is iffy. Also, speaking of external monitors and Macs "just working", google "mac external monitor not working after sleep", which is the problem that i definitely have on my work issued Mac, but not any of my linux laptops.