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Interesting, looks like the last big lens tech, liquid lenes are finally here. The First Smartphone to Use a Liquid Lens is the Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold https://pet

Interesting, looks like the last big lens tech, liquid lenes are finally here. The First Smartphone to Use a Liquid Lens is the Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold https://petapixel.com/2021/03/30/the-first-smartphone-to-use-a-liquid-lens-is-the-xiaomi-mi-mix-fold/ https://petapixel.com/2021/03/30/the-first-smartphone-to-use... Liquid Lens Features, Applications, and Technology https://www.edmundoptics.com/knowledge-center/application-notes/imaging/introduction-to-liquid-lenses/ https://www.edmundoptics.com/knowledge-center/application-no...

bnegreve 6y ago
[The] camera uses a liquid lens powered by a motor that uses precision manipulation on that packet of fluid to switch between a 3x telephoto zoom and a macro mode [..] If I understand correctly, the lens in the Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold does require a mechanical movement to be adjusted (it's also clearly visible in the video), so I'm not sure what is the point.
- simcop2387 6y ago
  It's a much more compact mechanical movement than a traditional focusing system, allowing them to use the same sensors for two different zoom levels on the phone. Right now this is otherwise being done by using multiple sensors and lenses instead.
- ampdepolymerase 6y ago
  I remember prior literature on liquid lenses used electric charges. It is possible the ones in the phones use mechanical movements to get around patents.
  - _Microft 6y ago
    I think I also remember something like that. It might have been an interface between silicon oil and a saline solution that was deformed by applying an electric field.
- perryizgr8 6y ago
  You can change the zoom/focus by a lot more if the lens can be made to change shape, kind of like the eye. You would need to have a much greater degree of movement to replicate it with hard lenses.
  - seg_lol 6y ago
    You could also do things like use different patches of the sensor to focus different parts of the scene. Depending on how much the lens can morph, it could provide for bifocal functionality or limited fly eye.
olejorgenb 6y ago
Another new(?) type of lens: https://www.polight.com/technology-and-products/how-does-it-work/default.aspx https://www.polight.com/technology-and-products/how-does-it-... The glass is deformed rather than moved. The main selling points compactness and very fast change of focus.
- taneq 6y ago
  It's impossible to deform something without moving parts of it. Still, fast focus is good.
KMag 6y ago
What happens to a liquid lens at -60 F / -51 C?

bnegreve 6y ago

[The] camera uses a liquid lens powered by a motor that uses precision manipulation on that packet of fluid to switch between a 3x telephoto zoom and a macro mode [..] If I understand correctly, the lens in the Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold does require a mechanical movement to be adjusted (it's also clearly visible in the video), so I'm not sure what is the point.

simcop2387 6y ago
It's a much more compact mechanical movement than a traditional focusing system, allowing them to use the same sensors for two different zoom levels on the phone. Right now this is otherwise being done by using multiple sensors and lenses instead.
ampdepolymerase 6y ago
I remember prior literature on liquid lenses used electric charges. It is possible the ones in the phones use mechanical movements to get around patents.
- _Microft 6y ago
  I think I also remember something like that. It might have been an interface between silicon oil and a saline solution that was deformed by applying an electric field.
perryizgr8 6y ago
You can change the zoom/focus by a lot more if the lens can be made to change shape, kind of like the eye. You would need to have a much greater degree of movement to replicate it with hard lenses.
- seg_lol 6y ago
  You could also do things like use different patches of the sensor to focus different parts of the scene. Depending on how much the lens can morph, it could provide for bifocal functionality or limited fly eye.

olejorgenb 6y ago

Another new(?) type of lens: https://www.polight.com/technology-and-products/how-does-it-work/default.aspx https://www.polight.com/technology-and-products/how-does-it-... The glass is deformed rather than moved. The main selling points compactness and very fast change of focus.

taneq 6y ago
It's impossible to deform something without moving parts of it. Still, fast focus is good.

KMag 6y ago

What happens to a liquid lens at -60 F / -51 C?