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The Islamic perspective is different. If something is prohibited, then there is no trying to get around the prohibition by stitching together a series of indivi
by gher-shyu3i 6y ago
The Islamic perspective is different. If something is prohibited, then there is no trying to get around the prohibition by stitching together a series of individually permitted transactions, such that the end result is a transaction that mimics the original prohibited one. The prohibition is because the act itself is impermissible, and hence, we are not to try to get around it.
- skeletal88 6y agoThen the islamic students who we had here for an event 10 years sgo and refused ti eat pork but really liked to drink booze were full of shit when they answered "we are under a roof, god can't see here" when questioned about their drinking
- gher-shyu3i 6y agoWhich Islamic students? One of the most basic tenants of Islam, known to even pre-elementary school children, is that God is Omniscient. If what you're saying is really true, then they're ignorant and/or foolish. Plus, this doesn't have anything to do with the original topic.
- SturgeonsLaw 6y agoMuslims are real people, with the drives, desires and flaws of real people. The parent comment matches my experience too, my Muslim friends here in Australia will not touch pork at all, but love a bourbon and coke.
- astrange 6y agoMy Muslim friend doesn't practice but claims he still physically can't eat pork (or drink much) without getting sick because he never got used to it. We never tried to confirm this.
- gher-shyu3i 6y agoHe doesn't practice or doesn't believe? If he doesn't believe in Islam then he's not a Muslim.
- astrange 6y agoIsn't that personal? I don't want to ask.
- gher-shyu3i 6y agoAnd we never denied this. The original argument was that whether or not the religion permits loopholes. If a Muslim chooses not to follow particular teachings of Islam, that's on him, but not because there are "loopholes".
- toast0 6y agoNevertheless, there is an Islamic Banking industry that offers products which seem economically equivilent to a mortgage with interest, while being theologically different enough to attract some market participants.
- gher-shyu3i 6y agoYes, I explained in my other post that many scholars have spoken about such "products". We take our religion from the Quran and Hadith and the understanding of the early generations (Companions and their followers). They didn't have such practices, so we disregard them because they're clearly trying to imitate Western banking practices that are based on usury and interest and other prohibited things in Islam (e.g. shorting, selling what you don't own, gambling, etc.).