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I’ve heard that large amount of secrect Scientology texts where mailed to some part of the Swedish government anonymously. And, as anything handled by the gover

I’ve heard that large amount of secrect Scientology texts where mailed to some part of the Swedish government anonymously. And, as anything handled by the government is public, those documents where then public for all Swedish citizen. Not sure if it is just a random myth or if it is true.

freeopinion 6y ago
This is obviously a myth. If somebody mails a DVD of "Godzilla vs King Kong" to a government employee, it doesn't place the movie into the public domain.
- Taniwha 6y ago
  Not a myth, in Sweden at the time it was the law, Scientology's "all your problems are caused because you are haunted by murdered space aliens" secret was put in the public domain this way
- gowld 6y ago
  Not public domain, but 1 copy available for reference like in a library.
  - freeopinion 6y ago
    That is an interesting take. If somebody robbed a bank and gave the money to the state, the state would obviously need to return it to its rightful owner. But copyright is not so straight forward. The church could contest that the physical copy belonged to them and was on loan. Thus it could not be gifted legally. The church could claim that the physical document was licensed non-transferably. They could claim that the copy itself was against copyright. There could be lots of arguments they could make to suppress the document. But none seem so straight forward as the bank robbery example.
  - 3np 6y ago
    Actually in general, you can ask for a copy of any document, for a somewhat reasonable copying/handling fee, and have it sent to you. If somebody’s hogging the book all day it can’t be copied as much, though...
- 3np 6y ago
  You’re just armchair guessing based on your hunch and this time you were wrong. It is not a myth. That doesn’t mean sending a DVD to a government employee puts the movie in the public domain. It’s more nuanced than that.
3np 6y ago
It’s true. Happened more than once, even. Some references here: https://www.allmanhandling.se/tag/scientologbibeln/ https://www.allmanhandling.se/tag/scientologbibeln/ The first and most famous one: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenon_Panoussis https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenon_Panoussis Essentially in Sweden, the principle of public access to government communication trumped copyright. The church of Scientology eventually successfully lobbied for a law change and it was classified as secret. But for a good while there, the Scientologists had people go to the institution where the documents where held, requested to get access to read it, and stay there hogging it in their reading room every day just to prevent others from accessing it.

freeopinion 6y ago

This is obviously a myth. If somebody mails a DVD of "Godzilla vs King Kong" to a government employee, it doesn't place the movie into the public domain.

Taniwha 6y ago
Not a myth, in Sweden at the time it was the law, Scientology's "all your problems are caused because you are haunted by murdered space aliens" secret was put in the public domain this way
gowld 6y ago
Not public domain, but 1 copy available for reference like in a library.
- freeopinion 6y ago
  That is an interesting take. If somebody robbed a bank and gave the money to the state, the state would obviously need to return it to its rightful owner. But copyright is not so straight forward. The church could contest that the physical copy belonged to them and was on loan. Thus it could not be gifted legally. The church could claim that the physical document was licensed non-transferably. They could claim that the copy itself was against copyright. There could be lots of arguments they could make to suppress the document. But none seem so straight forward as the bank robbery example.
- 3np 6y ago
  Actually in general, you can ask for a copy of any document, for a somewhat reasonable copying/handling fee, and have it sent to you. If somebody’s hogging the book all day it can’t be copied as much, though...
3np 6y ago
You’re just armchair guessing based on your hunch and this time you were wrong. It is not a myth. That doesn’t mean sending a DVD to a government employee puts the movie in the public domain. It’s more nuanced than that.

3np 6y ago

It’s true. Happened more than once, even. Some references here: https://www.allmanhandling.se/tag/scientologbibeln/ https://www.allmanhandling.se/tag/scientologbibeln/ The first and most famous one: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenon_Panoussis https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenon_Panoussis Essentially in Sweden, the principle of public access to government communication trumped copyright. The church of Scientology eventually successfully lobbied for a law change and it was classified as secret. But for a good while there, the Scientologists had people go to the institution where the documents where held, requested to get access to read it, and stay there hogging it in their reading room every day just to prevent others from accessing it.