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>Funny, I feel like you are the one doing that. Stop projecting. You're the one literally calling for systemic racism. >"Ending systemic racism is racism" is
by throwaway210402 6y ago
>Funny, I feel like you are the one doing that.
Stop projecting. You're the one literally calling for systemic racism.
>"Ending systemic racism is racism" is basically what you are saying.
Complete opposite. I'm saying "ending systemic racism is ending racism that's systemic."
>Except your argument is that wealth inequality by race somehow isn't systemic racism?
My argument is, find examples of systemic racism and we can both ally against it. Correlation != Causation.
>The system is equal meaning that it's a meritocracy you mean?
Point to specific laws that are systemically racist and we can say yes, the system is racist. Implementing UBI and discriminating by race is by definition introducing institutional racism into the system.
>If the system is equal, why is there a wealth gap between black people and white people?
If the system is white supremacist, why do Asians, Jews, Nigerians, etc. out perform whites?
- Miner49er 6y agoI mostly wanted an answer to this question: >If the system is equal, why is there a wealth gap between black people and white people? A straightforward answer to that would help me follow your logic. If you can't give me that, I don't think I'll be able to understand where you are coming from.
- throwaway210402 6y agoI answered it above: If the system is white supremacist, why do Asians, Jews, Nigerians, etc. out perform whites? Why are there any variations in weath between anyone, or intra-race? The fact of the matter is, this is all immaterial. The most logical and least racist way to combat the inequality is to give assistance to the less fortunate, regardless of their race, gender, religion, etc. Otherwise, you're just being racist.
- filoeleven 6y ago> Point to specific laws that are systemically racist and we can say yes, the system is racist. This is an incomplete view of “the system.” You’re leaving out biases in enforcement of the laws and prosecution and conviction rates, and other practices that are not prohibited by law but effectively reinforce racism. Redlining is an example of what I mean by the last one. There are laws against it now that were put into place because it was a social problem, not a legal one.
- throwaway210402 6y agoThose disproportionately affected by "the system" in the past will be disproportionately poor. Those who are disproportionately poor will be disproportionately helped by a UBI system that does not discriminate. QED.
- filoeleven 6y ago> My argument is, find examples of systemic racism and we can both ally against it. That’s all I was doing. I’m all for UBI with the “U” intact.