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How do you mean about consulting? I do engineering consulting and small scale production. In my culture that sort of thing is common, I'm just a little salty ab

How do you mean about consulting? I do engineering consulting and small scale production. In my culture that sort of thing is common, I'm just a little salty about it because I did the work and someone else got the experience of the reward. Same with the NY maker faire awards 10 years ago. I did the work, I stayed home because my roommate had the flu and needed someone to look after her + I didn't want to accidentally get a bunch of people sick in case I caught it, someone else got to go on stage, receive the reward, get an interview in the new york times, etc. My experience was to get a little blue ribbon in the mail, looking at it, and then mailing it to my mom.

ksaj 6y ago
It says something positive about your character that you helped those two people out, then missed out on the recognition experience because you were helping someone else out. The people who matter know it was you who helped them. > How do you mean about consulting? You described it how I meant it. It happens to everyone in consulting every time you end up sub-contracting, unless you're a Musk or McConnell with a high level of name recognition. It's a waste of self-worth to wallow around lamenting a lack of public credit and/or fame. By asking "Why Do I Exist?" you are not giving yourself credit for what you've actually done. Those two people, and your roommate, aren't thinking "Gee, I wish I got someone rich and famous to help me more efficiently!"
- spiritplumber 6y ago
  I just figured people would know me by my work, and I make a point of "signing" it, just... it doesn't go out very far. And yeah, I'm feeling kinda low on self-worth. The thing about giving oneself credit is, is it useful if the credit you give yourself doesn't match the credit others give you? (Regardless of who is right objectively). Doesn't that just increase the amount of cognitive dissonance in the world? The people I mentioned are currently mildly worried about my mental well being. I'm not. I just don't see the point in continuing to do stuff like this; maybe I'd be happier being a fisherman or a cobbler, is all.
  - ksaj 6y ago
    > maybe I'd be happier being a fisherman or a cobbler To be fair, they do things that benefit others, too. Lil Nas X and Captain Highliner are already getting all the credit for shoes and fish, though. Try not to paint everyone with the same brush stroke. Your use of the word "others" ignores the fact that the people you impact are the ones that count, and yet you're allowing yourself to get hung up on not getting patted on the head by people outside that loop. Are you doing these things for the other person, or for you? Also: If people you know personally are questioning your mental condition, it's usually a good time to get a second opinion. Talk to your GP. There can be changes that occur over time that you may not notice, out of daily familiarity, but are stark to people who don't see you daily. You've mentioned it enough that it seems you are also concerned, even while passing it off.
    - spiritplumber 6y ago
      I think everyone likes headpats, ask the nearest dog/cat/bunny for verification :) I'm doing things for the thing that needs done, mostly. But yeah the glory is more important to me than the money. It used to feel good, now it doesn't. Guess assuefaction happens with everything and the dopamine pump dries up with everything. I've talked to a therapist a couple of weeks ago. And yeah, that's a thing about a society that has fully globalized. There's only room for one set of glory hounds. Kids who want to get into building stuff are inspired by Colin Furze, not by the guy down the street who makes wheelchair ramps out of pallets.
      - ksaj 6y ago
        > Kids who want to get into building stuff are inspired by Colin Furze, not by the guy down the street who makes wheelchair ramps out of pallets. That's pretty dystopian. Kids have to be exposed to causes before they can possibly develop compassion for them. That puts it square in the parent's department. I guess if you need to be that glory hound, you'll have to do it the old fashioned way: by earning it through your works. Whining extensively about it won't get you very much glory. Completely the opposite, likely.

ksaj 6y ago

It says something positive about your character that you helped those two people out, then missed out on the recognition experience because you were helping someone else out. The people who matter know it was you who helped them. > How do you mean about consulting? You described it how I meant it. It happens to everyone in consulting every time you end up sub-contracting, unless you're a Musk or McConnell with a high level of name recognition. It's a waste of self-worth to wallow around lamenting a lack of public credit and/or fame. By asking "Why Do I Exist?" you are not giving yourself credit for what you've actually done. Those two people, and your roommate, aren't thinking "Gee, I wish I got someone rich and famous to help me more efficiently!"

spiritplumber 6y ago
I just figured people would know me by my work, and I make a point of "signing" it, just... it doesn't go out very far. And yeah, I'm feeling kinda low on self-worth. The thing about giving oneself credit is, is it useful if the credit you give yourself doesn't match the credit others give you? (Regardless of who is right objectively). Doesn't that just increase the amount of cognitive dissonance in the world? The people I mentioned are currently mildly worried about my mental well being. I'm not. I just don't see the point in continuing to do stuff like this; maybe I'd be happier being a fisherman or a cobbler, is all.
- ksaj 6y ago
  > maybe I'd be happier being a fisherman or a cobbler To be fair, they do things that benefit others, too. Lil Nas X and Captain Highliner are already getting all the credit for shoes and fish, though. Try not to paint everyone with the same brush stroke. Your use of the word "others" ignores the fact that the people you impact are the ones that count, and yet you're allowing yourself to get hung up on not getting patted on the head by people outside that loop. Are you doing these things for the other person, or for you? Also: If people you know personally are questioning your mental condition, it's usually a good time to get a second opinion. Talk to your GP. There can be changes that occur over time that you may not notice, out of daily familiarity, but are stark to people who don't see you daily. You've mentioned it enough that it seems you are also concerned, even while passing it off.
  - spiritplumber 6y ago
    I think everyone likes headpats, ask the nearest dog/cat/bunny for verification :) I'm doing things for the thing that needs done, mostly. But yeah the glory is more important to me than the money. It used to feel good, now it doesn't. Guess assuefaction happens with everything and the dopamine pump dries up with everything. I've talked to a therapist a couple of weeks ago. And yeah, that's a thing about a society that has fully globalized. There's only room for one set of glory hounds. Kids who want to get into building stuff are inspired by Colin Furze, not by the guy down the street who makes wheelchair ramps out of pallets.
    - ksaj 6y ago
      > Kids who want to get into building stuff are inspired by Colin Furze, not by the guy down the street who makes wheelchair ramps out of pallets. That's pretty dystopian. Kids have to be exposed to causes before they can possibly develop compassion for them. That puts it square in the parent's department. I guess if you need to be that glory hound, you'll have to do it the old fashioned way: by earning it through your works. Whining extensively about it won't get you very much glory. Completely the opposite, likely.