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"Rates of respiratory disease (P<0.001), diabetes (P<0.001), and cardiovascular disease (P<0.001) were also significantly raised in patients with covid-19, with

"Rates of respiratory disease (P<0.001), diabetes (P<0.001), and cardiovascular disease (P<0.001) were also significantly raised in patients with covid-19, with 770 (95% confidence interval 758 to 783), 127 (122 to 132), and 126 (121 to 131) diagnoses per 1000 person years, respectively." I could imagine COVID being causally implicated in respiratory disease or cardiovascular disease, but diabetes? That sounds to me like the control group wasn't representative.

morsch 6y ago
Maybe I'm understanding you wrong, but diabetes is a well-known risk factor for COVID-19. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precaut... https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30405-8/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8...
- incrudible 6y ago
  It is, my point is that the study presents it as an outcome of COVID-19, next to outcomes like "death" and "re-hospitalizations".
  - morsch 6y ago
    I can see how you could read it that way, but I think they're just confirming the increased rates of covid with the three named pre-existing conditions. It never occured to me to understand it otherwise when I read it first.
    - incrudible 6y ago
      > I can see how you could read it that way, but I think they're just confirming the increased rates of covid with the three named pre-existing conditions. No, because that is in literally the objective: "To quantify rates of organ specific dysfunction in individuals with covid-19 after discharge from hospital compared with a matched control group from the general population." I wouldn't even rule out that COVID causes diabetes, but at the same time diabetes is commonly underdiagnosed, as is heart or liver disease.

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"Rates of respiratory disease (P<0.001), diabetes (P<0.001), and cardiovascular disease (P<0.001) were also significantly raised in patients with covid-19, with

by incrudible 6y ago

morsch 6y ago
Maybe I'm understanding you wrong, but diabetes is a well-known risk factor for COVID-19. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precaut... https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30405-8/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8...
- incrudible 6y ago
  It is, my point is that the study presents it as an outcome of COVID-19, next to outcomes like "death" and "re-hospitalizations".
  - morsch 6y ago
    I can see how you could read it that way, but I think they're just confirming the increased rates of covid with the three named pre-existing conditions. It never occured to me to understand it otherwise when I read it first.
    - incrudible 6y ago
      > I can see how you could read it that way, but I think they're just confirming the increased rates of covid with the three named pre-existing conditions. No, because that is in literally the objective: "To quantify rates of organ specific dysfunction in individuals with covid-19 after discharge from hospital compared with a matched control group from the general population." I wouldn't even rule out that COVID causes diabetes, but at the same time diabetes is commonly underdiagnosed, as is heart or liver disease.