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the first step it must to make is to step out of the "i'm the top of the God's creation" closet I want to give you 100 of my own karma points. I just do not kn

the first step it must to make is to step out of the "i'm the top of the God's creation" closet I want to give you 100 of my own karma points. I just do not know where this believe that we are better comes from. [This is totally hypocritical coming from me since I eat meat. Nevertheless]

VladRussian 15y ago
thank you, i appreciate it :). In my understanding, meat eating is just a stage in the species development. I.e. eating meat, as a more efficient energy source, allowed a bunch of species move to the state of mental development we can observe among the advanced predators, ie. likes of wolves, cats, apes/humans, etc... I think humans have exhausted how far the _extensive_ (ie. size increasing) brain development of meat eating species can go - it seems we're near the biomechanical limits - the brain consumes ~25% of our body energy. The further development seems to require to "shrink the die" of our brain and/or increase/improving of the energy intake. "Shrinking the die" is biological evolutionary process that will take time on the scale of several generations at least (Einstein's brain, smaller, yet more densely packed and having more energy generating cells than the average human's brain, shows that it is a viable, in principle, option) Wrt. improving of the energy intake - i think we're on the brink (ie. in the next few decades) of bio-engineering of the meat-comparable and, this is much more important, more effective-than-meat energy carrying and generating proteins (or whatever compounds it will result in) for human consumption, and in result - move of the humans past the meat (as meat eating would be an artificial dumbing down of yourself) and we'll see the world in the new light. Meat consumption would become just an ugly habit of the past, like torturous executions (ie. burning at stake, disemboweling, quartering...) that were an enjoyable public spectacle just few hundreds years ago.
sukuriant 15y ago
side-question: what does eating meat have to do with thinking you're better than other kinds of creatures? Do lions think they're better? Dogs? Raccoons? Barracuda? Dolphin? Seal? Any-other-carnivore/omnivore
- rokhayakebe 15y ago
  Good question. I am not sure I know how to answer it.
- VladRussian 15y ago
  the predators don't typically eat their own kind, so there is definitely something in their mind that facilitates that separation. In the case of humans that "something" is the idea that "we are better and they are stupid".

VladRussian 15y ago

thank you, i appreciate it :). In my understanding, meat eating is just a stage in the species development. I.e. eating meat, as a more efficient energy source, allowed a bunch of species move to the state of mental development we can observe among the advanced predators, ie. likes of wolves, cats, apes/humans, etc... I think humans have exhausted how far the _extensive_ (ie. size increasing) brain development of meat eating species can go - it seems we're near the biomechanical limits - the brain consumes ~25% of our body energy. The further development seems to require to "shrink the die" of our brain and/or increase/improving of the energy intake. "Shrinking the die" is biological evolutionary process that will take time on the scale of several generations at least (Einstein's brain, smaller, yet more densely packed and having more energy generating cells than the average human's brain, shows that it is a viable, in principle, option) Wrt. improving of the energy intake - i think we're on the brink (ie. in the next few decades) of bio-engineering of the meat-comparable and, this is much more important, more effective-than-meat energy carrying and generating proteins (or whatever compounds it will result in) for human consumption, and in result - move of the humans past the meat (as meat eating would be an artificial dumbing down of yourself) and we'll see the world in the new light. Meat consumption would become just an ugly habit of the past, like torturous executions (ie. burning at stake, disemboweling, quartering...) that were an enjoyable public spectacle just few hundreds years ago.

sukuriant 15y ago

side-question: what does eating meat have to do with thinking you're better than other kinds of creatures? Do lions think they're better? Dogs? Raccoons? Barracuda? Dolphin? Seal? Any-other-carnivore/omnivore

rokhayakebe 15y ago
Good question. I am not sure I know how to answer it.
VladRussian 15y ago
the predators don't typically eat their own kind, so there is definitely something in their mind that facilitates that separation. In the case of humans that "something" is the idea that "we are better and they are stupid".