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Does Miguel still work for Microsoft? Edit: he appears to be working on something Apple related. He never really understood Linux, did he? He was always tryin

Does Miguel still work for Microsoft? Edit: he appears to be working on something Apple related. He never really understood Linux, did he? He was always trying to sabotage it, or bend it to his will. Worst was when he tried to get people to use dotnet on Linux. Edit2: Apparently he does!

pjmlp 6y ago
Yes, and will be part of the new AI research unit, he has recently tweeted about open positions.
marco_craveiro 6y ago
I'm not entirely sure that is a fair comment, given his many FOSS contributions. I think Linux is a meeting point of many ideas, and Miguel (and Nat and many others) had their vision. Maybe they saw something like OSX. Others saw (and are seeing) something else. RMS had/has his vision. I think its perfectly fine to do your best to make your vision come to life and when that does not quite workout, do something else. Your contributions will remain, and can be used by others to build on. This is the true power of the FOSS philosophy, that it is the sum of disparate agendas, IMHO.
- fartcannon 6y ago
  Sure, I'm not saying his contributions were worthless. (Some people even like using Gnome for some reason! - I kid, I kid) But it is his contributions that lend him credence and so when he uses that credence to support Microsoft's soft EEE strategies, it's kind of a let down. Whether Miguel sees it like that or not, it's just how it felt to me during his reign of influence. Clearly so did RMS. For example, he supported standardizing on Microsoft's file formats. The same formats that continue to cause problems for alternatives to excel and word to this day. And his support of dotnet at a time when Microsoft was funding the SCO lawsuits, and calling Linux cancer, rattling patent sabers etc are either tone deaf or disinterested in the freedoms given to use by FOSS. Or maybe he's a saboteur. He definitely worked for Microsoft long enough. :D
kristiandupont 6y ago
Do you honestly consider Mono an attempt to "sabotage" Linux??
- fartcannon 6y ago
  Hi sorry about the delay. No, I don't. But if you look at the era when it was created (MS funding the SCO lawsuits, MS calling Linux cancer, etc), creating a technology that gave Microsoft _more_ control over computing was definitely the wrong move. And because of his previous experience developing Gnome, his actions were more influential. So it just sorta depends on how you see the actors in the game. To me, Miguel's support of Microsoft tech (dotnet, and his support of Microsoft file formats) makes him at best a liability to the free world I want to live in. At worst, yeah, a saboteur.

pjmlp 6y ago

Yes, and will be part of the new AI research unit, he has recently tweeted about open positions.

marco_craveiro 6y ago

I'm not entirely sure that is a fair comment, given his many FOSS contributions. I think Linux is a meeting point of many ideas, and Miguel (and Nat and many others) had their vision. Maybe they saw something like OSX. Others saw (and are seeing) something else. RMS had/has his vision. I think its perfectly fine to do your best to make your vision come to life and when that does not quite workout, do something else. Your contributions will remain, and can be used by others to build on. This is the true power of the FOSS philosophy, that it is the sum of disparate agendas, IMHO.

fartcannon 6y ago
Sure, I'm not saying his contributions were worthless. (Some people even like using Gnome for some reason! - I kid, I kid) But it is his contributions that lend him credence and so when he uses that credence to support Microsoft's soft EEE strategies, it's kind of a let down. Whether Miguel sees it like that or not, it's just how it felt to me during his reign of influence. Clearly so did RMS. For example, he supported standardizing on Microsoft's file formats. The same formats that continue to cause problems for alternatives to excel and word to this day. And his support of dotnet at a time when Microsoft was funding the SCO lawsuits, and calling Linux cancer, rattling patent sabers etc are either tone deaf or disinterested in the freedoms given to use by FOSS. Or maybe he's a saboteur. He definitely worked for Microsoft long enough. :D

kristiandupont 6y ago

Do you honestly consider Mono an attempt to "sabotage" Linux??

fartcannon 6y ago
Hi sorry about the delay. No, I don't. But if you look at the era when it was created (MS funding the SCO lawsuits, MS calling Linux cancer, etc), creating a technology that gave Microsoft _more_ control over computing was definitely the wrong move. And because of his previous experience developing Gnome, his actions were more influential. So it just sorta depends on how you see the actors in the game. To me, Miguel's support of Microsoft tech (dotnet, and his support of Microsoft file formats) makes him at best a liability to the free world I want to live in. At worst, yeah, a saboteur.