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The same argument can be applied to covid deaths itself.

by o_p 6y ago

xref 6y ago
Huh? The number of people who died of sars-ncov-2 compared to how many died of it...before it existed?
- manicdee 6y ago
  Unvaccinated deaths from COVID-19 vs deaths from post-vaccination patients. No need to be snarky.
  - Smithalicious 6y ago
    I don't think it was intended to be snarky, I had the same confusion
- Viker 6y ago
  Compared to deaths from regular flu each year. In 2017 there were almost 80k deaths in the US due to flu. In 2018 around 40k. Yes currently its being reported that there has been nearly 500k deaths due to covid only. Note the only part. I smell number fuckery here...
  - oblio 6y ago
    Check out excess deaths.
  - midasuni 6y ago
    https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-covid-19-updates-tuesday/h_5da59c431e62a1c19c0899cfcf73d3ba https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-covid-19-up... More people have died from Covid-19 than in the past 5 flu seasons combined And that was October 45s into this video shows icu admissions each year for flu and covid. Covid of course coming with stringent lockdowns. https://www.ft.com/video/0cd6f9f9-664e-40f9-bad4-dde59d7c746c?playlist-name=editors-picks&playlist-offset=2 https://www.ft.com/video/0cd6f9f9-664e-40f9-bad4-dde59d7c746...
    - deleted 6y ago
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    - collyw 6y ago
      Flu testing has basically stopped. Many countries are recording every death within 20 days of a positive test as a covid death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHfOcGm5xiA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHfOcGm5xiA This shows overall deaths in a number of countries compared to the last 20 years for a number of countries. https://oronu.wordpress.com/2021/01/29/mortality-statistics/ https://oronu.wordpress.com/2021/01/29/mortality-statistics/
terr-dav 6y ago
The argument that the number of deaths in the US greater than the baseline from the previous year is roughly the same as the reported deaths where there was a covid infection, so our count seems accurate?
Erlich_Bachman 6y ago
The argument is that the numbers should be reported properly - with their context and baseline. For COVID cases in general, it can, it should and it is being applied in many statistics. It is an important number for understanding the disease.

The same argument can be applied to covid deaths itself.

by o_p 6y ago

The same argument can be applied to covid deaths itself.

xref 6y ago

Huh? The number of people who died of sars-ncov-2 compared to how many died of it...before it existed?

manicdee 6y ago
Unvaccinated deaths from COVID-19 vs deaths from post-vaccination patients. No need to be snarky.
- Smithalicious 6y ago
  I don't think it was intended to be snarky, I had the same confusion
Viker 6y ago
Compared to deaths from regular flu each year. In 2017 there were almost 80k deaths in the US due to flu. In 2018 around 40k. Yes currently its being reported that there has been nearly 500k deaths due to covid only. Note the only part. I smell number fuckery here...
- oblio 6y ago
  Check out excess deaths.
- midasuni 6y ago
  https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-covid-19-updates-tuesday/h_5da59c431e62a1c19c0899cfcf73d3ba https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-covid-19-up... More people have died from Covid-19 than in the past 5 flu seasons combined And that was October 45s into this video shows icu admissions each year for flu and covid. Covid of course coming with stringent lockdowns. https://www.ft.com/video/0cd6f9f9-664e-40f9-bad4-dde59d7c746c?playlist-name=editors-picks&playlist-offset=2 https://www.ft.com/video/0cd6f9f9-664e-40f9-bad4-dde59d7c746...
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - collyw 6y ago
    Flu testing has basically stopped. Many countries are recording every death within 20 days of a positive test as a covid death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHfOcGm5xiA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHfOcGm5xiA This shows overall deaths in a number of countries compared to the last 20 years for a number of countries. https://oronu.wordpress.com/2021/01/29/mortality-statistics/ https://oronu.wordpress.com/2021/01/29/mortality-statistics/

terr-dav 6y ago

The argument that the number of deaths in the US greater than the baseline from the previous year is roughly the same as the reported deaths where there was a covid infection, so our count seems accurate?

Erlich_Bachman 6y ago

The argument is that the numbers should be reported properly - with their context and baseline. For COVID cases in general, it can, it should and it is being applied in many statistics. It is an important number for understanding the disease.