There's a lot of responses here that are based on the premise that there _is_ something to get with regards to the material these groups publish and that if you

There's a lot of responses here that are based on the premise that there _is_ something to get with regards to the material these groups publish and that if you don't get it you're doing it wrong. I'm not saying there's nothing to be appreciated, but maybe the problem is that "poetry" as defined by these groups stuff written by poets pandering to poets? This article starts claiming that people don't appreciate poetry, says that Poetry Foundation is putting in great efforts to expose people to poetry and failing, etc., but then it almost immediately concedes that people _do_ appreciate poetry, in lyrics and instapoetry. I think the issue is that there's simply no major outlets trying to publish stuff that would actually appeal to a general audience. I've spent a lot of time trying to find publications that have fun, interesting formal verse and there's zilch. You can find massive lists of paper and digital poetry periodicals _all_ publishing free verse, every other poem about someone dying or race issues. Insofar as lyrics are formal verse, after dozens of hours of searching for contemporary formal verse I've found: https://thelyricmagazine.com/ https://thelyricmagazine.com/ - formal verse, long history, still barely going today. There's usually a couple poems each release that I think "oh, that was pretty good". https://assesofparnassus.tumblr.com/ https://assesofparnassus.tumblr.com/ - also formal verse, very short poems but very carefully written. Recently I really liked "Better Read Than Dead" and "Bobcats". Also Ursula K. Le Guin wrote formal verse! At least according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_%28magazine%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_%28magazine%29 the magazine was actually founded as an avenue for poets to publish without concern for public appeal. The Editor of the commercial Rattle Magazine, "... without pretension since 1995", published this embarrassing diatribe against Instapoetry https://www.pe.com/2019/08/24/instapoetry-isnt-poetry-but-its-booming-business/ https://www.pe.com/2019/08/24/instapoetry-isnt-poetry-but-it... . If this doesn't indicate a disconnect, I don't know what does.