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It’s 8 incidents out of 18.1 million vaccinations according to the UK government’s own report. The prevalence generally is estimated to be between 2 and 5 per m

by ttul 6y ago

It’s 8 incidents out of 18.1 million vaccinations according to the UK government’s own report. The prevalence generally is estimated to be between 2 and 5 per million per year [1] in a 2016 paper. Given the population prevalence, you’d expect 36 to 100 incidents in the vaccinated population. Yet they found only 8. I’m not qualified to say whether that means anything. [1] https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/STROKEAHA.116.013617 https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/STROKEAHA.116.0...

ttul 6y ago
Correcting myself: the UK reported 22 incidents of CVST and 8 of other clotting events.
- ars 6y ago
  Edit your post instead of correcting yourself. Also, this is a very specific and rare type of clotting event - don't compare it to clotting events in general.
  - ttul 6y ago
    It was not editable.
  - ttul 6y ago
    And I did mention the incidence of CVST, not just general clotting.
Strom 6y ago
When comparing to the baseline, we need to divde the per year stats to some shorter time period, because these AstraZeneca related cases happen pretty quickly after the jab, which means that the observation period isn't a full year. It's also worth looking at the age distribution. The cases that are thought to be linked with AstraZeneca are with younger people. I wonder how that compares to the baseline thrombosis age distribution.
- vmception 6y ago
  In full 3-stage clinical trials, would this cause passage with a disclaimer about side effects, or would this cause failure? I don't have enough information about this sector to tell
  - AstralStorm 6y ago
    Phase 3 trials are typically not big enough to find this level of risk. It took millions of jabs to find a slightly elevated risk, and this I think has to be compared to some other commonly applied vaccine, not placebo. If the risk is "very rare", like less than 1 in 10000, then it warrants a label and maybe precautionary dose of aspirin.
sneak 6y ago
Reminiscent of that time that Apple/Foxconn got bad PR back in 2010 for 15 suicides at their manufacturing plants in a single year, however it was out of a worker population of 930,000, despite the suicide rate in China generally being 22+ per 100,000, well over 10x higher. People still report the false narrative as fact, a decade on. I wonder about the long-term effects of these vaccine scare stores on our society's health.
- gostsamo 6y ago
  Was the general population made of factory workers only?

by ttul 6y ago

ttul 6y ago

Correcting myself: the UK reported 22 incidents of CVST and 8 of other clotting events.

ars 6y ago
Edit your post instead of correcting yourself. Also, this is a very specific and rare type of clotting event - don't compare it to clotting events in general.
- ttul 6y ago
  It was not editable.
- ttul 6y ago
  And I did mention the incidence of CVST, not just general clotting.

Strom 6y ago

When comparing to the baseline, we need to divde the per year stats to some shorter time period, because these AstraZeneca related cases happen pretty quickly after the jab, which means that the observation period isn't a full year. It's also worth looking at the age distribution. The cases that are thought to be linked with AstraZeneca are with younger people. I wonder how that compares to the baseline thrombosis age distribution.

vmception 6y ago
In full 3-stage clinical trials, would this cause passage with a disclaimer about side effects, or would this cause failure? I don't have enough information about this sector to tell
- AstralStorm 6y ago
  Phase 3 trials are typically not big enough to find this level of risk. It took millions of jabs to find a slightly elevated risk, and this I think has to be compared to some other commonly applied vaccine, not placebo. If the risk is "very rare", like less than 1 in 10000, then it warrants a label and maybe precautionary dose of aspirin.

sneak 6y ago

Reminiscent of that time that Apple/Foxconn got bad PR back in 2010 for 15 suicides at their manufacturing plants in a single year, however it was out of a worker population of 930,000, despite the suicide rate in China generally being 22+ per 100,000, well over 10x higher. People still report the false narrative as fact, a decade on. I wonder about the long-term effects of these vaccine scare stores on our society's health.

gostsamo 6y ago
Was the general population made of factory workers only?