> I much rather steer the conversation towards solutions rather than engage over abstract "good" and "bad" terms which you don't seem to want to define. That’s

> I much rather steer the conversation towards solutions rather than engage over abstract "good" and "bad" terms which you don't seem to want to define. That’s not really how it looked earlier in the thread. You seemed to be strongly defending the idea that engagement is good, and not even accepting that there could be a problem. Perhaps that’s a misreading of your intention.