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It’s my main email client, what’s wrong with it?

tasogare 6y ago
What’s right with it? I tried it a few times and always returned to web-based clients (on desktop) and third-party apps (outlook, gmail, protonmail) on iOS.
- techbubble 6y ago
  I find it works very well, so basically everything seems right. Use it for nine accounts concurrently. Rarely have any issues.
- duiker101 6y ago
  So what's wrong with it?
- sixstringtheory 6y ago
  What web-based client will allow you to read email without an Internet connection in Safari? What marginal advantage does a third-party iOS client provide, that outweighs the risks of installing another app that is going to spy on me, have weaker integration with the OS and force me to relearn every new UI design language they come up with that in no way resembles the rest of the OS or its function and behavior?
  - eertami 6y ago
    >What web-based client will allow you to read email without an Internet connection in Safari? I understand why it might be a deal breaker for you, but browsing email offline is not a use case everyone has.
    - codezero 6y ago
      I want to downvote you because what you said sounds so absurd to me as an “old” (self identify at 40 thanks tech) person. Thanks for saying this - it’s important to understand that the way things were are not alway the way things are :)
    - sixstringtheory 6y ago
      > not a use case everyone has That’s not what the original question was. It was: > what’s right with [Mail for iOS] So me implying that reading mail offline is one thing that’s right with it is not invalidated by the fact that it’s not a universally demanded feature (and yes, it has helped me many times, even recently). Do you really need to remove that feature to build a “better” email client? What exactly is the tradeoff you see?
- Aloisius 6y ago
  Web gmail sucks when you have multiple accounts.
megablast 6y ago
I have an issue where it always thinks a couple of accounts are offline. I have to click the squiggle for it to download those accounts. Every restart I have to do the same thing.
- codezero 6y ago
  That’s really annoying. I self host my email so haven’t seen something like that for a while. Last time I did it was I think related to some sort of contradiction between my port number selection and the encryption type for either the incoming or outgoing server but I can’t quite remember.
Hnrobert42 6y ago
I tried it for a year for a Gmail-backed account. My complaints are: 1. Searches in Mail are slower and less accurate than web-client searches. 2. No access to Gmail filters. I don’t blame Mail for this, but it is a reason I returned to the web client. 3. Applying labels is harder in Mail. Maybe I missed it, but it wasn’t as easy to apply multiple labels or to apply a label to a draft email. 4. I couldn’t find a Send and Archive feature in Mail. Basically, I like the Gmail experience. I hate Google, and I’d love to move away from them. I have for search, maps, mobile OS. For calendars, contacts, and mail, Google has the features I like.
- codezero 6y ago
  Agree with your points. My use case doesn’t involve gmail so can see how that complicated things especially from a UX perspective. I wish IMAP/standards had more of a say in email like they did (sort of) for web.

What’s right with it? I tried it a few times and always returned to web-based clients (on desktop) and third-party apps (outlook, gmail, protonmail) on iOS.

techbubble 6y ago
I find it works very well, so basically everything seems right. Use it for nine accounts concurrently. Rarely have any issues.
duiker101 6y ago
So what's wrong with it?
sixstringtheory 6y ago
What web-based client will allow you to read email without an Internet connection in Safari? What marginal advantage does a third-party iOS client provide, that outweighs the risks of installing another app that is going to spy on me, have weaker integration with the OS and force me to relearn every new UI design language they come up with that in no way resembles the rest of the OS or its function and behavior?
- eertami 6y ago
  >What web-based client will allow you to read email without an Internet connection in Safari? I understand why it might be a deal breaker for you, but browsing email offline is not a use case everyone has.
  - codezero 6y ago
    I want to downvote you because what you said sounds so absurd to me as an “old” (self identify at 40 thanks tech) person. Thanks for saying this - it’s important to understand that the way things were are not alway the way things are :)
  - sixstringtheory 6y ago
    > not a use case everyone has That’s not what the original question was. It was: > what’s right with [Mail for iOS] So me implying that reading mail offline is one thing that’s right with it is not invalidated by the fact that it’s not a universally demanded feature (and yes, it has helped me many times, even recently). Do you really need to remove that feature to build a “better” email client? What exactly is the tradeoff you see?
Aloisius 6y ago
Web gmail sucks when you have multiple accounts.

megablast 6y ago

I have an issue where it always thinks a couple of accounts are offline. I have to click the squiggle for it to download those accounts. Every restart I have to do the same thing.

codezero 6y ago
That’s really annoying. I self host my email so haven’t seen something like that for a while. Last time I did it was I think related to some sort of contradiction between my port number selection and the encryption type for either the incoming or outgoing server but I can’t quite remember.

Hnrobert42 6y ago

I tried it for a year for a Gmail-backed account. My complaints are: 1. Searches in Mail are slower and less accurate than web-client searches. 2. No access to Gmail filters. I don’t blame Mail for this, but it is a reason I returned to the web client. 3. Applying labels is harder in Mail. Maybe I missed it, but it wasn’t as easy to apply multiple labels or to apply a label to a draft email. 4. I couldn’t find a Send and Archive feature in Mail. Basically, I like the Gmail experience. I hate Google, and I’d love to move away from them. I have for search, maps, mobile OS. For calendars, contacts, and mail, Google has the features I like.

codezero 6y ago
Agree with your points. My use case doesn’t involve gmail so can see how that complicated things especially from a UX perspective. I wish IMAP/standards had more of a say in email like they did (sort of) for web.