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That's not what the statistics say: https://emailclientmarketshare.com https://emailclientmarketshare.com

by ratww 6y ago

wahern 6y ago
Wow, Mail.app has more market share than Outlook. I'm pleasantly surprised. Ditto for GMail only having ~30%. Although, > Since determining the client in which an email is opened requires images to be displayed, the data for some email clients and mobile devices might be over- or under-represented due to automatic image blocking. Outlook doesn't display external images by default, while Mail.app does, so....
- iamacyborg 6y ago
  Also, I assume there's a different demographic that uses Mail vs Outlook. Those different demographics will receive different types of email, which may or may not be represented differently by companies who use Litmus tracking which is how this data is being collected.
- cozzyd 6y ago
  right, neither does Evolution or Thunderbird. It's crazy that Mail.app does this.
- uberduper 6y ago
  As far as I know and recall from the years I've been using Mail.app, it does not download external images by default.
  - wahern 6y ago
    It does. I even provided a citation several weeks ago in another thread, though a quick Google search seems to bring up ample support of its own. Like me you may have disabled it and forgotten. Whenever I get a new laptop at work I tend to go through and change all the defaults, such as reverting to plaintext composition, and habitually disable external image loading as part of the process. The iPhone Mail app may have saner defaults, however, but I don't have an iPhone and have never used its e-mail client.
- zakki 6y ago
  Does Apple excluded Mail.app from their privacy focused strategy?
uncledave 6y ago
Am I the only one using outlook and loving it?
- fullwaza 6y ago
  Yes
- munk-a 6y ago
  No - I still don't like it myself but they've made some pretty great strides in feature parity and have excellent integration if you're a Teams shop.
- roym6 6y ago
  Outlook on Mac consumes outrageous amounts of ram...
  - darkwater 6y ago
    Absolutely. Mail.app on Windows instead is pretty lightweight /s
- LegitShady 6y ago
  its gotten better but its still not great.
mhh__ 6y ago
I'm surprised how high the iPhone share is. Specifically in light of it usually being stated in any thread discussing apple and regulation that Apple do not have anything close to a controlling share of the market
- kitsunesoba 6y ago
  Things may have changed, but to my knowledge iDevices have traditionally been disproportionately represented in many metrics due to getting heavier usage from their owners. Android wins by far in sheer units sold and in use, but iOS users use their devices so much more heavily and frequently that the average iOS user has a larger usage footprint than their Android counterpart.

That's not what the statistics say: https://emailclientmarketshare.com https://emailclientmarketshare.com

by ratww 6y ago

That's not what the statistics say: https://emailclientmarketshare.com https://emailclientmarketshare.com

Wow, Mail.app has more market share than Outlook. I'm pleasantly surprised. Ditto for GMail only having ~30%. Although, > Since determining the client in which an email is opened requires images to be displayed, the data for some email clients and mobile devices might be over- or under-represented due to automatic image blocking. Outlook doesn't display external images by default, while Mail.app does, so....

iamacyborg 6y ago
Also, I assume there's a different demographic that uses Mail vs Outlook. Those different demographics will receive different types of email, which may or may not be represented differently by companies who use Litmus tracking which is how this data is being collected.
cozzyd 6y ago
right, neither does Evolution or Thunderbird. It's crazy that Mail.app does this.
uberduper 6y ago
As far as I know and recall from the years I've been using Mail.app, it does not download external images by default.
- wahern 6y ago
  It does. I even provided a citation several weeks ago in another thread, though a quick Google search seems to bring up ample support of its own. Like me you may have disabled it and forgotten. Whenever I get a new laptop at work I tend to go through and change all the defaults, such as reverting to plaintext composition, and habitually disable external image loading as part of the process. The iPhone Mail app may have saner defaults, however, but I don't have an iPhone and have never used its e-mail client.
zakki 6y ago
Does Apple excluded Mail.app from their privacy focused strategy?

uncledave 6y ago

Am I the only one using outlook and loving it?

fullwaza 6y ago
Yes
munk-a 6y ago
No - I still don't like it myself but they've made some pretty great strides in feature parity and have excellent integration if you're a Teams shop.
roym6 6y ago
Outlook on Mac consumes outrageous amounts of ram...
- darkwater 6y ago
  Absolutely. Mail.app on Windows instead is pretty lightweight /s
LegitShady 6y ago
its gotten better but its still not great.

mhh__ 6y ago

I'm surprised how high the iPhone share is. Specifically in light of it usually being stated in any thread discussing apple and regulation that Apple do not have anything close to a controlling share of the market

kitsunesoba 6y ago
Things may have changed, but to my knowledge iDevices have traditionally been disproportionately represented in many metrics due to getting heavier usage from their owners. Android wins by far in sheer units sold and in use, but iOS users use their devices so much more heavily and frequently that the average iOS user has a larger usage footprint than their Android counterpart.