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Spotify Finally Coming to U.S. in July

22 points by davethenerd 15y ago

Toddward 15y ago
I kind of wonder about the relevance of Spotify in the current market - with locker offerings from Google and Amazon (and forthcoming from Apple), it seems like the need for services like Spotify (for me, at least) is dwindling. Spotify was a great idea before the emergence of music lockers - if I wanted access to music on the go, I could use a streaming service. But now that I can use a locker service to stream my own music library, I'm far less likely to pay for a Spotify subscription. Case in point - I would have instantly sprung for a Spotify subscription two or three years ago had it been available in the States, but now that I'm using Google Music (albeit for free for now), there is no incentive for me to switch to Spotify as anything more than a semi-casual user.
- aristidb 15y ago
  You will need to subscribe to the Apple service if you want to use your existing collection there. So that's not so far from the Spotify solution.
  - Toddward 15y ago
    I understand that subscriptions are required for the best features of these services - my point was merely that I would rather pay to have access to my own library from anywhere than a semi-complete library that I can't control. I listen to a lot of music that isn't on iTunes or Rhapsody or <insert service here>. Having the ability to access a more complete library of what I actually want to listen to presents a huge value to me. Hence my willingness to pay for a locker over a streaming service. But believe me, I know not everyone is as picky as I am.
    - mitjak 15y ago
      Indeed. You seem to assume that the music library is somehow static which isn't the reality for a lot of users of Spotify and other streaming services. There are at least a dozen albums released and reissued every day, and some people (like me) enjoy checking out new music on a daily basis. It is simply not viable to keep buying all those albums and store them in a library, particularly if you won't listen to them ever again after the first listen. While an edge case, the shades of gray in the middle still demand a constantly changing library. Thus, Spotify and Grooveshark, whose catalogue I personally like a lot more, are much better choices than the 'online library' services.
- danh 15y ago
  I'm a heavy Spotify user because it is so much more convenient than the alternatives. I love not having to care about buying, downloading, uploading, sorting, tagging and generally messing about with files. Most of the time, I don't even have to make my own playlists: I just find someone else's that looks interesting, mark it for "Available offline", and listen to that for a while. I'm not interested in "owning" music (whatever that means these days). I am interested in listening to it, and Spotify makes this very easy. In comparison, the whole "locker" business seems very messy, and rather unnecessary. I can't for the life of me see what the advantage would be.
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- bonaldi 15y ago
  Lockers of your own music are completely orthogonal to what Spotify is great at: social music. I have lots of shared playlists with friends, and when one adds a song to a playlist we all instantly get it. It's like live, endless mixtapes, and transforms discovering and sharing music. Spotify may need to market this more, but cloud storage and iTunes match don't come close to its killer app.
  - Toddward 15y ago
    That's a good point that I hadn't considered - in fact, after reading some of the responses here, I'm rethinking my original position on the issue. While I may prefer the music locker model, that certainly doesn't mean Spotify is any less relevant for everyone else.
helipad 15y ago
After a hiatus I fired up Spotify here in the UK today. It's awful. The software works just fine and the number of songs is commendable, but there are audio ads every couple of songs, intrusive display ads and free users only get 10 hours a month of listening. Sure, you get what you pay for, but it's certainly a much, much worse experience than I had remembered it.
- kenneth_reitz 15y ago
  The free service is awful, because you're supposed to pay :) I've been using paid Spotify from the US for a year and a half now, and I use it everyday. It's perfect.
  - helipad 15y ago
    Spotify got its traction in Europe though because of the free service. Whether or not the paid version good value, the free service is essentially just a free trial now - which is fine, but there's a heck of a lot of competition in the paid area.
- kantoa 15y ago
  One of the major reasons that it's been hard for spotify to be released in America is because the big music publishers have been worried about if spotify could be profitable being supporeted only by ads. I've read, I don't have the source anymore, that they might phase out free spotify in the future and that's why they've increased the amount of ads. I pay 10 euro/mnoth for premium now which let's me stream as much 320 kb/s music as I want and save any song I want on my smartphone or PC. It's absolutely worth if you listen to a lot of music.
  - JonnieCache 15y ago
    >320 kb/s Don't forget, that's 320 kb/s of OGG vorbis, which is frankly excessive. 320 kbit mp3s are already excessive.
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anonymoushn 15y ago
Awesome, I'll finally be able to search their library so I can know whether I'm missing anything.
joblessjunkie 15y ago
How is Spotify different from Rhapsody, which has been offering subscription streaming in the US for almost a decade?
- mikemaccana 15y ago
  Maybe Rhapsody has this, but Spotify has all my FB friends on the right hand side and we drag and drop music to each other all day and browse each other playlists. It's like Ping done right. It also has an API. Also IIRC Rhapsody is a Real product, so it may not actually work properly.

22 points by davethenerd 15y ago

I kind of wonder about the relevance of Spotify in the current market - with locker offerings from Google and Amazon (and forthcoming from Apple), it seems like the need for services like Spotify (for me, at least) is dwindling. Spotify was a great idea before the emergence of music lockers - if I wanted access to music on the go, I could use a streaming service. But now that I can use a locker service to stream my own music library, I'm far less likely to pay for a Spotify subscription. Case in point - I would have instantly sprung for a Spotify subscription two or three years ago had it been available in the States, but now that I'm using Google Music (albeit for free for now), there is no incentive for me to switch to Spotify as anything more than a semi-casual user.

aristidb 15y ago
You will need to subscribe to the Apple service if you want to use your existing collection there. So that's not so far from the Spotify solution.
- Toddward 15y ago
  I understand that subscriptions are required for the best features of these services - my point was merely that I would rather pay to have access to my own library from anywhere than a semi-complete library that I can't control. I listen to a lot of music that isn't on iTunes or Rhapsody or <insert service here>. Having the ability to access a more complete library of what I actually want to listen to presents a huge value to me. Hence my willingness to pay for a locker over a streaming service. But believe me, I know not everyone is as picky as I am.
  - mitjak 15y ago
    Indeed. You seem to assume that the music library is somehow static which isn't the reality for a lot of users of Spotify and other streaming services. There are at least a dozen albums released and reissued every day, and some people (like me) enjoy checking out new music on a daily basis. It is simply not viable to keep buying all those albums and store them in a library, particularly if you won't listen to them ever again after the first listen. While an edge case, the shades of gray in the middle still demand a constantly changing library. Thus, Spotify and Grooveshark, whose catalogue I personally like a lot more, are much better choices than the 'online library' services.
danh 15y ago
I'm a heavy Spotify user because it is so much more convenient than the alternatives. I love not having to care about buying, downloading, uploading, sorting, tagging and generally messing about with files. Most of the time, I don't even have to make my own playlists: I just find someone else's that looks interesting, mark it for "Available offline", and listen to that for a while. I'm not interested in "owning" music (whatever that means these days). I am interested in listening to it, and Spotify makes this very easy. In comparison, the whole "locker" business seems very messy, and rather unnecessary. I can't for the life of me see what the advantage would be.
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bonaldi 15y ago
Lockers of your own music are completely orthogonal to what Spotify is great at: social music. I have lots of shared playlists with friends, and when one adds a song to a playlist we all instantly get it. It's like live, endless mixtapes, and transforms discovering and sharing music. Spotify may need to market this more, but cloud storage and iTunes match don't come close to its killer app.
- Toddward 15y ago
  That's a good point that I hadn't considered - in fact, after reading some of the responses here, I'm rethinking my original position on the issue. While I may prefer the music locker model, that certainly doesn't mean Spotify is any less relevant for everyone else.

helipad 15y ago

After a hiatus I fired up Spotify here in the UK today. It's awful. The software works just fine and the number of songs is commendable, but there are audio ads every couple of songs, intrusive display ads and free users only get 10 hours a month of listening. Sure, you get what you pay for, but it's certainly a much, much worse experience than I had remembered it.

kenneth_reitz 15y ago
The free service is awful, because you're supposed to pay :) I've been using paid Spotify from the US for a year and a half now, and I use it everyday. It's perfect.
- helipad 15y ago
  Spotify got its traction in Europe though because of the free service. Whether or not the paid version good value, the free service is essentially just a free trial now - which is fine, but there's a heck of a lot of competition in the paid area.
kantoa 15y ago
One of the major reasons that it's been hard for spotify to be released in America is because the big music publishers have been worried about if spotify could be profitable being supporeted only by ads. I've read, I don't have the source anymore, that they might phase out free spotify in the future and that's why they've increased the amount of ads. I pay 10 euro/mnoth for premium now which let's me stream as much 320 kb/s music as I want and save any song I want on my smartphone or PC. It's absolutely worth if you listen to a lot of music.
- JonnieCache 15y ago
  >320 kb/s Don't forget, that's 320 kb/s of OGG vorbis, which is frankly excessive. 320 kbit mp3s are already excessive.
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anonymoushn 15y ago

Awesome, I'll finally be able to search their library so I can know whether I'm missing anything.

joblessjunkie 15y ago

How is Spotify different from Rhapsody, which has been offering subscription streaming in the US for almost a decade?

mikemaccana 15y ago
Maybe Rhapsody has this, but Spotify has all my FB friends on the right hand side and we drag and drop music to each other all day and browse each other playlists. It's like Ping done right. It also has an API. Also IIRC Rhapsody is a Real product, so it may not actually work properly.