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More people getting covid means more chances of a mutation that makes it spread easier or is resistant to current vaccines. A surge now is a bad thing.
by fredophile 6y ago
More people getting covid means more chances of a mutation that makes it spread easier or is resistant to current vaccines. A surge now is a bad thing.
- hammock 6y agoWhat is the likelihood that any given mutation increases vs. decreases contagiousness or resistance?
- pmiller2 6y agoIt doesn’t matter how likely any individual mutation is to increase transmissibility or resistance. We won’t ever see the ones that decrease transmissibility or resistance, because they’ll be outcompeted by the Brand X virus, as well as any nastier mutants.
- hammock 6y agoThen why has it taken this long to see a global pandemic? Surely it must matter to some extent how likely any given mutation is to increase transmissibility or resistance.
- unilynx 6y agoThat's probably random, but the mutations that increase contagiousness will be the ones surviving natural selection.
- hammock 6y agoI recall a general principle in virology that given a virus found in the wild, the more contagious it is, the less harm or death it causes. (If it killed every host it would have no long-term survivability)
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- roywiggins 6y agoMost mutations probably just render the thing unable to replicate and it "dies," much the same way flipping a random bit is more likely to cause a program crash than do anything useful at all. The relative rate doesn't matter, the absolute rate does (how often does it mutate at all and survive to infect another host).
- titzer 6y ago> A surge now is a bad thing. It's always been a bad thing and will continue to be a bad thing.
- pmiller2 6y agoIt’s a little worse now in terms of selective pressures, but, at least hospitals aren’t overflowing currently.
- fredophile 6y agoI'd argue that it's worse now. Where I live we have over 20% vaccinated right now and that number increases every day. This adds a bias for mutations that are vaccine resistant. A mutation that gives a slight disadvantage, but means the vaccine won't stop it, would have gone nowhere a year ago. Now that same mutation has a large population where it can easily outcompete the current virus.
- titzer 6y agoThat's a good point. I guess the worst situation would be almost herd immunity, with the majority being vaccinated but a minority of unvaccinated people constantly circulating the virus. The vaccinated population then represents verdant fields: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yybsSqcB7mE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yybsSqcB7mE