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Well, in the US civil war, the South did succeed and did attempt to make treaties with other nations. They weren't very successful it seems, but that's not beca

Well, in the US civil war, the South did succeed and did attempt to make treaties with other nations. They weren't very successful it seems, but that's not because they didn't try. In the American Revolution, a critical factor in victory was our alliances with France and Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy_of_the_American_Civil_War#Confederate_failures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy_of_the_American_Civi... If Taiwan is properly regarded as a domestic issue, US intervention is improper and is "starting something" that would otherwise be contained locally... much like WWI's system of alliances.

zepto 6y ago
> If Taiwan is properly regarded as a domestic issue. It obviously isn’s because Taiwan had long standing treaties with the US for its defense. Your analogy implies that Taiwan is part of China, and has already started a civil war by making alliances with a foreign power. If Taiwan was part of China and is not already engaged in a civil war, they would not have been able to make these treaties.
leereeves 6y ago
The situation in Taiwan is more like the South successfully seceded, then in 1940 the US claimed the South still belonged to the US. Taiwan has been, de facto, an independent country for over 70 years, whether other countries give it diplomatic recognition or not.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  Great analogy, but not quite. It's more like the South seceded, then over the years became much more powerful, then in 1940 claimed that the North belonged to the South.
  - mrkstu 6y ago
    Like it, but how about the South not just seceded, but counter-attacked and drove what was left of the Union government to Puerto Rico from whence both 'countries' claimed sovereignty over the whole. Eventually the Puerto Rican's US gets very successful within the scope of an island nation and the Confederate USA starts planning on taking PR back, but PR US has since made alliances with a global military power.

zepto 6y ago

> If Taiwan is properly regarded as a domestic issue. It obviously isn’s because Taiwan had long standing treaties with the US for its defense. Your analogy implies that Taiwan is part of China, and has already started a civil war by making alliances with a foreign power. If Taiwan was part of China and is not already engaged in a civil war, they would not have been able to make these treaties.

leereeves 6y ago

The situation in Taiwan is more like the South successfully seceded, then in 1940 the US claimed the South still belonged to the US. Taiwan has been, de facto, an independent country for over 70 years, whether other countries give it diplomatic recognition or not.

AnimalMuppet 6y ago
Great analogy, but not quite. It's more like the South seceded, then over the years became much more powerful, then in 1940 claimed that the North belonged to the South.
- mrkstu 6y ago
  Like it, but how about the South not just seceded, but counter-attacked and drove what was left of the Union government to Puerto Rico from whence both 'countries' claimed sovereignty over the whole. Eventually the Puerto Rican's US gets very successful within the scope of an island nation and the Confederate USA starts planning on taking PR back, but PR US has since made alliances with a global military power.