> You can not say people still get around just fine when for instances sometimes you need 4 hours or more to reach a place 80 kilometers far from you. If you

> You can not say people still get around just fine when for instances sometimes you need 4 hours or more to reach a place 80 kilometers far from you. If you are a bit unlucky that might be a realistic time for traveling by train here in Germany so I don't really see the horror. They don't have the public transport level of Japan sure but even most of the developed world is much worse. In most parts of the US not owning a car is not even a realistic options. If we are fair and compare Cuba to other underdeveloped countries in South America then they compare very favorable.