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Lol just 94 people protested this contract at msft. I don't want to debate if it's the people at Microsoft or the suppressed voice by upper management. Either w

Lol just 94 people protested this contract at msft. I don't want to debate if it's the people at Microsoft or the suppressed voice by upper management. Either way Microsoft gets away with a lot of contentious business decisions as employees are more inclined to keep their head down. Also about salaries, try creating a spreadsheet for salaries at Microsoft. I guarantee you, you will be fired within the week.

tmotwu 6y ago
On salaries, I'm really confused - I'm telling you it exists. Heck, it even got media coverage: https://onezero.medium.com/leaked-salary-spreadsheet-reveals-microsoft-employee-earnings-for-a-second-year-d1466132d309 https://onezero.medium.com/leaked-salary-spreadsheet-reveals.... Do you know anybody getting fired for starting one? When I was there, I can't even recall someone getting fired for any reason - lots of employees have been there for decades and not at all 1) keeping their head down or 2) worried about job security. I have no idea where the stigma comes from of Microsoft employees keeping their heads down, or why they would have any reason to? And especially, I really cannot recall Microsoft firing anybody for voicing ethical concerns - so why in the world would employees feel like they would be putting their job on the line?
- mav3rick 6y ago
  'By the last day of August 2020, 310 employees had added their data to the spreadsheet. Microsoft employs more than 150,000 employees around the world.' You don't say.
  - tmotwu 6y ago
    150,000 employees are not all L5x-L7x leveled or engineers. Not everything in the world gets leaked, so we're only addressing one leaked spreadsheet - of many. Your original claim was that people get fired for this within the week. I refuted that I don't recall any sort of event. There weren't announcements for mass firings of 310 employees. If you have more details on this, please share. You seemed very convinced of your initial claims on how Microsoft reacts to contentious acts by employees against the company, so I imagined it must be evidence based. I really would like to know.

tmotwu 6y ago

On salaries, I'm really confused - I'm telling you it exists. Heck, it even got media coverage: https://onezero.medium.com/leaked-salary-spreadsheet-reveals-microsoft-employee-earnings-for-a-second-year-d1466132d309 https://onezero.medium.com/leaked-salary-spreadsheet-reveals.... Do you know anybody getting fired for starting one? When I was there, I can't even recall someone getting fired for any reason - lots of employees have been there for decades and not at all 1) keeping their head down or 2) worried about job security. I have no idea where the stigma comes from of Microsoft employees keeping their heads down, or why they would have any reason to? And especially, I really cannot recall Microsoft firing anybody for voicing ethical concerns - so why in the world would employees feel like they would be putting their job on the line?

mav3rick 6y ago
'By the last day of August 2020, 310 employees had added their data to the spreadsheet. Microsoft employs more than 150,000 employees around the world.' You don't say.
- tmotwu 6y ago
  150,000 employees are not all L5x-L7x leveled or engineers. Not everything in the world gets leaked, so we're only addressing one leaked spreadsheet - of many. Your original claim was that people get fired for this within the week. I refuted that I don't recall any sort of event. There weren't announcements for mass firings of 310 employees. If you have more details on this, please share. You seemed very convinced of your initial claims on how Microsoft reacts to contentious acts by employees against the company, so I imagined it must be evidence based. I really would like to know.