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Yesteday I ordered new MicroTik gear to replace the last of my Ubiquiti gear only to find there's a two week wait for it to be shipped! Looks like there's been

Yesteday I ordered new MicroTik gear to replace the last of my Ubiquiti gear only to find there's a two week wait for it to be shipped! Looks like there's been increased demand for products made by Ubiqiti's competitors. Thanks Ubiquiti for a good few years but time to move on. You've lost my trust big time.

sliken 6y ago
What did you replace? With what?
wil421 6y ago
MikroTik is always saying delayed shipping. Amazon has been the only place I’ve seen them in stock but from 3rd party sellers. MikroTik isn’t even in the same league as UniFi. Their interfaces and docs are terrible. The only reason I ever considered buying something from them is because they had a good price for a 10gb switch. If you want a dumb device you can’t beat their price. Check out a few of the reviews on Amazon. Seed and Don’s reviews are very critical. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NFXN4SS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NFXN4SS
- fossuser 6y ago
  This is the main reason I’ve kept my Unifi stuff and cloud key despite the growing company issues. Is there anything in this space that is good hardware with a decent UI? When I looked the options were consumer crap or very expensive enterprise hardware with no UI.
  - jabroni_salad 6y ago
    Last summer I installed a bunch of second hand Arubas for a non-profit. it was dead simple and the first AP you set up acts as the controller for the others, no cloudkey equivalent needed. I'm not sure if the UI is 'consumer friendly' but I didn't need the commandline and I had never worked with any HP networking gear prior to that, and had no difficulties.
- phatfish 6y ago
  The interface is complicated, but they are not "dumb". The problem is there are too many features packed into a an interface that could be mistaken for something designed 20 years ago. For some people that is not an issue, but it is a barrier to them competing with the mainstream devices.
- amluto 6y ago
  I’m not convinced that UniFi today is in the same league as UniFi two years ago. UniFi Controller 5 worked. Version 6 still wants to kick back to old mode for some tasks, changes its dashboard for no reason (ads?) every month or so, and seems far less reliable. And the actual fancy config remains in JSON, and, to the extent that anything is supported at all, JSON config is definitely not supported. Oh yeah, UniFi APs seem to need rebooting periodically to keep working well. My old OpenWRT gear was rock solid with a year of uptime. I’m currently migrating away. I’m sick of it.
  - wil421 6y ago
    I agree it’s not the same as 2 years ago but it’s still ahead of mikrotik. Hopefully they can turn things around.
- croutonwagon 6y ago
  On the contrary I swapped a tough switch for a mikrotik at a remote site (my parents) multiple years ago and it’s rock solid. Running that stuff on a UPS is super beneficial regardless.
posixplz 6y ago
Are MikroTik access points still a royal pain to configure and maintain? I use their switches, but not their APs. Decades ago, I was a network engineer working in production data centers. I’m used to setting up switches manually. But I have no professional experience with setting up meshed WiFi networks. I like that the Ubiquiti APs “just work” for the most part. I’ve started to notice weird AP/client failures with my ubiquiti gear and debugging is a nightmare. It seems that ubiquiti has hidden a lot of useful information in an overzealous effort to streamline UX.
duxup 6y ago
That's just MikroTik, their shipping is always wonky / not what we're used to with other consumer electronics.
cptskippy 6y ago
> Yesteday I ordered new MicroTik gear to replace the last of my Ubiquiti gear only to find there's a two week wait for it to be shipped! I've never seen any Mikrotik product available to ship, it's always on back order. I've even had resellers call me up and offer alternatives because my order was on back order.

sliken 6y ago

What did you replace? With what?

wil421 6y ago

MikroTik is always saying delayed shipping. Amazon has been the only place I’ve seen them in stock but from 3rd party sellers. MikroTik isn’t even in the same league as UniFi. Their interfaces and docs are terrible. The only reason I ever considered buying something from them is because they had a good price for a 10gb switch. If you want a dumb device you can’t beat their price. Check out a few of the reviews on Amazon. Seed and Don’s reviews are very critical. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NFXN4SS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NFXN4SS

fossuser 6y ago
This is the main reason I’ve kept my Unifi stuff and cloud key despite the growing company issues. Is there anything in this space that is good hardware with a decent UI? When I looked the options were consumer crap or very expensive enterprise hardware with no UI.
- jabroni_salad 6y ago
  Last summer I installed a bunch of second hand Arubas for a non-profit. it was dead simple and the first AP you set up acts as the controller for the others, no cloudkey equivalent needed. I'm not sure if the UI is 'consumer friendly' but I didn't need the commandline and I had never worked with any HP networking gear prior to that, and had no difficulties.
phatfish 6y ago
The interface is complicated, but they are not "dumb". The problem is there are too many features packed into a an interface that could be mistaken for something designed 20 years ago. For some people that is not an issue, but it is a barrier to them competing with the mainstream devices.
amluto 6y ago
I’m not convinced that UniFi today is in the same league as UniFi two years ago. UniFi Controller 5 worked. Version 6 still wants to kick back to old mode for some tasks, changes its dashboard for no reason (ads?) every month or so, and seems far less reliable. And the actual fancy config remains in JSON, and, to the extent that anything is supported at all, JSON config is definitely not supported. Oh yeah, UniFi APs seem to need rebooting periodically to keep working well. My old OpenWRT gear was rock solid with a year of uptime. I’m currently migrating away. I’m sick of it.
- wil421 6y ago
  I agree it’s not the same as 2 years ago but it’s still ahead of mikrotik. Hopefully they can turn things around.
croutonwagon 6y ago
On the contrary I swapped a tough switch for a mikrotik at a remote site (my parents) multiple years ago and it’s rock solid. Running that stuff on a UPS is super beneficial regardless.

posixplz 6y ago

Are MikroTik access points still a royal pain to configure and maintain? I use their switches, but not their APs. Decades ago, I was a network engineer working in production data centers. I’m used to setting up switches manually. But I have no professional experience with setting up meshed WiFi networks. I like that the Ubiquiti APs “just work” for the most part. I’ve started to notice weird AP/client failures with my ubiquiti gear and debugging is a nightmare. It seems that ubiquiti has hidden a lot of useful information in an overzealous effort to streamline UX.

duxup 6y ago

That's just MikroTik, their shipping is always wonky / not what we're used to with other consumer electronics.

cptskippy 6y ago

> Yesteday I ordered new MicroTik gear to replace the last of my Ubiquiti gear only to find there's a two week wait for it to be shipped! I've never seen any Mikrotik product available to ship, it's always on back order. I've even had resellers call me up and offer alternatives because my order was on back order.