> I am sure there are people that easily remember the syntax for returning a reference to a hash of hashes, or whatever. Ehhhhh. I appreciate the opaqueness of

> I am sure there are people that easily remember the syntax for returning a reference to a hash of hashes, or whatever. Ehhhhh. I appreciate the opaqueness of Perl, but you've described something like the easiest data structure in Perl to write and access: return {"foo" => {"bar" => "baz"}}; return {foo => {bar => "baz"}}; $data->{foo}{bar} = "quux"; etc etc. It's when you drop away from the land of hashrefs and listrefs, and have to use plain old hashes and lists, that things actually get super weird - because most programming languages you're used to simply give you "refs" for everything, and they definitely don't have concepts like "list context" that let you merge lists by saying @a = @b, @c;