I agree that execs who've never written code often have no idea what it's like, and I've worked with some who didn't want to know. I've also worked in teams of

I agree that execs who've never written code often have no idea what it's like, and I've worked with some who didn't want to know. I've also worked in teams of engineers that did occasionally burst into laughter while gathered in rooms doing productive work. I've seen engineers who did no work. I've seen managers who worked extremely hard. It's all shades of grey.