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I am using an unofficial build of LineageOS 14.1 on my 6 year old tablet (Mi PAD 1 'mocha'). After using it for over a month, the ROM is amazingly stable. The

I am using an unofficial build of LineageOS 14.1 on my 6 year old tablet (Mi PAD 1 'mocha'). After using it for over a month, the ROM is amazingly stable. The earlier MiUi which the tablet shipped with (7.5.2 Android KitKat) had problems with memory management. For some reason, the 2GB RAM was partitioned into two parts, one for the OS and the other for the running apps. But LineageOS does not have this problem, and it is much quicker than when I bought it! I use FDroid to install apps and am very satisfied with it. NewPipe is excellent and videos can easily play at 1080p 60fps when earlier, the tablet used to lag on 480p videos. I have changed the governor to powersave and turned on doze mode. Amazingly, this 6 year old tablet can hold charge for over a week! Even when watching videos at 1080p, the device does not heat up. More power to the LineageOS team and XDADevelopers! EDIT: ROM version

2Gkashmiri 6y ago
Hello... I own a mi pad 1 and its running miui with android 3 or 4 I think. Newpipe works but barely. Same for other stuff. Last year I got China rom I guess but that changed the ui. Can you point me where to get started? I would love to use this device as its currently just a dump tablet with limited features.
- Flex247A 6y ago
  Sure! Actually MIUI has Android 4.4.2 KitKat. I repartitioned the ROM partition by following this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7_jrw9C9Pg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7_jrw9C9Pg And downloaded the ROM files form here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unofficial-14-1-7-1-2-2017-09-11-lineageos-14-1-for-xiaomi-mipad-mocha.3557616/ https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unofficial-14-1-7-1-2-201... China ROM is really bad as it can lead to black screen with the tablet becoming unresponsive.
  - 2Gkashmiri 6y ago
    What is the lineageos you use based on? What android version?
    - Flex247A 6y ago
      Version 7 Nougat
ZeWaren 6y ago
I have a similar experience with my Pixel 2 XL. The Lineage build with power saving mode stays up 2-3 days with active use. I'm extremely satisfied by it. Kudos to the Lineage team!
Haemm0r 6y ago
It is still possible to get OTA Updates for the Xperia Z2 Tablet (Snapdragon 800) using the AICP Rom too. I'm really glad that I bought this device.. Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-official-aicp-15-0-q10-0-castor-_windy-sony-z2-tablet.4047535/ https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-official-aicp-15-0-q1...
- techrat 6y ago
  > It is still possible to get OTA Updates for the ...for as long as the maintainer continues to support the device. And maintainers are all volunteers.
  - Haemm0r 6y ago
    ... of which I am aware of as it is a "custom rom". Which means it is nothing different to what the OP is using.
NotPavlovsDog 6y ago
I have been reviewing security for unofficial builds, and it's pretty abysmal, same for GPL compliance by the ROM creators. Could you share how you reviewed security for the unofficial ROM? I'm putting a list of actions to take, but so far it appears it will take days to review ROMS, alternatively download a rom, review what is in it and build from Lineage official source, with Lineage having the better privacy record .... Some things I would need to check: - The binary blobs at least match the originals, for example binaries from xiaomi - Included applications that DO publish their source match the published source / binaries built from said source - Permissions are sane/correct and don't have too many 777 where it is not needed, which is often set for convenience during development - That developers are aware and transparent about any telemetry or spyware, which appears to receive a rather cavalier approach from many developers. This is just one example of developer hostility and incompetence on the xiaomi eu rom community when asked about spyware: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/why-does-xiaomi-eu-rom-track-me-without-my-agreement-it-sends-data-to-your-private-servers.52543/ https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/why-does-xiaomi-eu-rom-t... There are many more to be found at the XDA forum, under custom roms. There are also some older discussions on HN, xiaomi related, but it does bring up the larger point - how many of the applications and core functionality in custom roms is spyware ? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26306661 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26306661
- Flex247A 6y ago
  I am just a normal user and wasn't aware that developers didn't review security properly ...
- jeroenhd 6y ago
  I've always been wary of custom Roms that didn't come from somewhat reliable sources like the Lineage team. The response in that Xiaomi.eu thread has seriously damaged the trust I had in the xiaomi.eu ROM. I've heard good stories about the ROM but if the community, even including a developer respond, like that to an issue like that, I don't think I can trust the website anymore, so I've blacklisted it in my pihole. I believe custom ROMs published by what comes down to "a guy in a forum thread" are nice for proof-of-concept stuff, but should be considered insecure. Many of these ROMs disable security measures like selinux because these measures make it harder to get Android running correctly on proprietary hardware, removing one of the best security mechanisms the Android sandbox has for the developer's convenience. I'll never recommend anything other than established brands like Lineage, /e/ or one of the security-focused ROMs to anyone. I mistakenly thought xiaomi.eu was one of the good ones, but it clearly isn't. Do you have any other sources on popular ROMs to avoid?
j1elo 6y ago
I'm in the same boat with my MiPad 1 Mocha! But the build of LineageOS 14.1, exactly from that forum thread you linked, was giving me some major issues: * A very bad one is that the tabled would suddenly reboot, from time to time, for no apparent reason (e.g. it might reboot just after opening the application drawer). * Even worse, using cabled headphones with the audio jack would be dangerous!! because some times a very high pitched beep might start sounding with max volume. Those two issues are clearly a product of how these alternative ROM builds are done: by some random hobbyist, in their free time, no professional QA at all, and some times changing internal system parameters without really understanding very well what they are doing. All in all, pretty much an exercise on luck. The high pitched sound was the worst for me, it worsened my tinnitus problem for several hours afterwards... In the end I tried my luck again with the AospExtended v5.8 [1] and this time things seemed to work out much better. But still, I would never personally recommend an unofficial Android ROM, ever. It feels like sending people to take a stroll through a mine field. [1]: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-8-1-0-20200224-unofficial-aospextended-v5-8-xiaomi-mi-pad-1-shield-blobs.3779730/ https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-8-1-0-20200224-unoffi...
- Flex247A 6y ago
  Hey, I deleted all the partitions of the device before flashing. Did you try flashing again? Because I did not face any such problems. Sound is a bit quieter, but that's pretty much it.
  - j1elo 6y ago
    Yes, I merged the 2 partitions and also installed the binary blobs... I've been using alternative ROMs for my Android devices for some years, so I know the drill. I even tried installing a couple times, but the issues persisted.

2Gkashmiri 6y ago

Hello... I own a mi pad 1 and its running miui with android 3 or 4 I think. Newpipe works but barely. Same for other stuff. Last year I got China rom I guess but that changed the ui. Can you point me where to get started? I would love to use this device as its currently just a dump tablet with limited features.

Flex247A 6y ago
Sure! Actually MIUI has Android 4.4.2 KitKat. I repartitioned the ROM partition by following this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7_jrw9C9Pg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7_jrw9C9Pg And downloaded the ROM files form here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unofficial-14-1-7-1-2-2017-09-11-lineageos-14-1-for-xiaomi-mipad-mocha.3557616/ https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unofficial-14-1-7-1-2-201... China ROM is really bad as it can lead to black screen with the tablet becoming unresponsive.
- 2Gkashmiri 6y ago
  What is the lineageos you use based on? What android version?
  - Flex247A 6y ago
    Version 7 Nougat

ZeWaren 6y ago

I have a similar experience with my Pixel 2 XL. The Lineage build with power saving mode stays up 2-3 days with active use. I'm extremely satisfied by it. Kudos to the Lineage team!

Haemm0r 6y ago

It is still possible to get OTA Updates for the Xperia Z2 Tablet (Snapdragon 800) using the AICP Rom too. I'm really glad that I bought this device.. Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-official-aicp-15-0-q10-0-castor-_windy-sony-z2-tablet.4047535/ https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-official-aicp-15-0-q1...

techrat 6y ago
> It is still possible to get OTA Updates for the ...for as long as the maintainer continues to support the device. And maintainers are all volunteers.
- Haemm0r 6y ago
  ... of which I am aware of as it is a "custom rom". Which means it is nothing different to what the OP is using.

NotPavlovsDog 6y ago

I have been reviewing security for unofficial builds, and it's pretty abysmal, same for GPL compliance by the ROM creators. Could you share how you reviewed security for the unofficial ROM? I'm putting a list of actions to take, but so far it appears it will take days to review ROMS, alternatively download a rom, review what is in it and build from Lineage official source, with Lineage having the better privacy record .... Some things I would need to check: - The binary blobs at least match the originals, for example binaries from xiaomi - Included applications that DO publish their source match the published source / binaries built from said source - Permissions are sane/correct and don't have too many 777 where it is not needed, which is often set for convenience during development - That developers are aware and transparent about any telemetry or spyware, which appears to receive a rather cavalier approach from many developers. This is just one example of developer hostility and incompetence on the xiaomi eu rom community when asked about spyware: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/why-does-xiaomi-eu-rom-track-me-without-my-agreement-it-sends-data-to-your-private-servers.52543/ https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/why-does-xiaomi-eu-rom-t... There are many more to be found at the XDA forum, under custom roms. There are also some older discussions on HN, xiaomi related, but it does bring up the larger point - how many of the applications and core functionality in custom roms is spyware ? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26306661 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26306661

Flex247A 6y ago
I am just a normal user and wasn't aware that developers didn't review security properly ...
jeroenhd 6y ago
I've always been wary of custom Roms that didn't come from somewhat reliable sources like the Lineage team. The response in that Xiaomi.eu thread has seriously damaged the trust I had in the xiaomi.eu ROM. I've heard good stories about the ROM but if the community, even including a developer respond, like that to an issue like that, I don't think I can trust the website anymore, so I've blacklisted it in my pihole. I believe custom ROMs published by what comes down to "a guy in a forum thread" are nice for proof-of-concept stuff, but should be considered insecure. Many of these ROMs disable security measures like selinux because these measures make it harder to get Android running correctly on proprietary hardware, removing one of the best security mechanisms the Android sandbox has for the developer's convenience. I'll never recommend anything other than established brands like Lineage, /e/ or one of the security-focused ROMs to anyone. I mistakenly thought xiaomi.eu was one of the good ones, but it clearly isn't. Do you have any other sources on popular ROMs to avoid?

j1elo 6y ago

I'm in the same boat with my MiPad 1 Mocha! But the build of LineageOS 14.1, exactly from that forum thread you linked, was giving me some major issues: * A very bad one is that the tabled would suddenly reboot, from time to time, for no apparent reason (e.g. it might reboot just after opening the application drawer). * Even worse, using cabled headphones with the audio jack would be dangerous!! because some times a very high pitched beep might start sounding with max volume. Those two issues are clearly a product of how these alternative ROM builds are done: by some random hobbyist, in their free time, no professional QA at all, and some times changing internal system parameters without really understanding very well what they are doing. All in all, pretty much an exercise on luck. The high pitched sound was the worst for me, it worsened my tinnitus problem for several hours afterwards... In the end I tried my luck again with the AospExtended v5.8 [1] and this time things seemed to work out much better. But still, I would never personally recommend an unofficial Android ROM, ever. It feels like sending people to take a stroll through a mine field. [1]: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-8-1-0-20200224-unofficial-aospextended-v5-8-xiaomi-mi-pad-1-shield-blobs.3779730/ https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-8-1-0-20200224-unoffi...

Flex247A 6y ago
Hey, I deleted all the partitions of the device before flashing. Did you try flashing again? Because I did not face any such problems. Sound is a bit quieter, but that's pretty much it.
- j1elo 6y ago
  Yes, I merged the 2 partitions and also installed the binary blobs... I've been using alternative ROMs for my Android devices for some years, so I know the drill. I even tried installing a couple times, but the issues persisted.