> If you think what Canada has is great and I’m just a complainer it’s because you haven’t looked at how the rest of the world organizes care. I think a system

> If you think what Canada has is great and I’m just a complainer it’s because you haven’t looked at how the rest of the world organizes care. I think a system where everybody has access to healthcare is better than one where they don't, assuming the outcomes are comparable. For Canada vs. America, the data I've seen do not bear out a claim that Canada has worse outcomes in aggregate. Furthermore, from what I understand of it, Canada's system guarantees everybody healthcare. On that basis I'm claiming that it has a significant advantage over the American system. If you'd like to argue that it's not important that everybody has access to healthcare, do that. Otherwise, I'm glad you have the money to pay, and I'm certainly glad I have the money to pay (up to a point), but I don't see that as a good reason to ignore those who don't. I'm not married to any particular way of setting it up. I just care about outcomes, and it's obvious to anybody who's paying attention that healthcare in America is fundamentally broken with respect to outcomes. Vague claims that the free market will fix everything if we just let it work its magic (as seen in other replies to my comment) are not convincing to me, because why should they be? Saying something doesn't make it true. People say a lot of crazy things, and a lot of it doesn't even pretend to try to make sense.