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I echo the issue. My SO has a condition that is a bit hard to pin down. Getting MDs to actually run tests took years of fights. I remember one particular phone

I echo the issue. My SO has a condition that is a bit hard to pin down. Getting MDs to actually run tests took years of fights. I remember one particular phone call where my SO, myself, the insurance company rep, and the MD were on a 4-way call together. The MD was refusing to run a specific test, as it was not 'needed'. Eventually the insurance person became incredulous on our behalf (a near miracle in itself) and stated that the particular machine that does the test routinely, as part of the standard panel of tests (like, it'll always spit out the pH, salinity, blood-type, etc). As in, the MD knew the results of the test the whole time and refused to tell my SO. The US system is beyond maddening! I'll say it until the cows come home, the US 'system' is broken, has been for decades, and will remain so for the future. Please, vote for people that will make it better.

gilbetron 6y ago
Ugh - I can feel the frustration through the intertubes :(
readflaggedcomm 6y ago
Where in your case does doctor intransigence come from, when even insurance companies voice reason? What part of the system incentivizes withholding test results to what benefit? What law?
disabled 6y ago
It’s a good reason to leave and immigrate elsewhere, even if one has to pay US taxes and gets paid less income. You cannot put a price on your health. I naturalized as a citizen elsewhere over US healthcare because I know it is only going to get worse long term. With 2 rare neurological diseases affecting my peripheral nervous system, plus type 1 diabetes (autoimmune and insulin-dependent), I want to stay alive long term, and so that was the best possible choice I could make. I am extremely well versed in immigration, acquiring citizenships, healthcare systems, and healthcare delivery and logistics, and so if anyone wants help or advice, feel free to email me (see my profile).
- dencodev 6y ago
  What's the best combination of close to the US, high living standards, good healthcare, and feasible to immigrate to as an American with a pretty normal professional career?
  - disabled 6y ago
    If you want a decent public answer, then I need to know which continents are off limits to be able to help you. You are being way too vague here. Also, a lot of the help I can give is only useful when discussed privately. I obviously do not want anything to do with confidential information, and I do not need that to help people. It's just that posting certain details about yourself online is not appropriate via public websites. That is why I give my email (see profile). Typically getting citizenship in /any/ European Union + European Free Trade Association country (minus Liechtenstein--has an immigration quota) is the best deal for an American. The reason why? Becoming a citizen of one of these countries confers you EU or EFTA citizenship (let's just call it EU citizenship). Once you become an EU citizen, you have the right to live/work/retire in about 30 different countries. You are also always seen as "The American" with your American educational credentials and American work experience. So, if you can just spend like 5-10 years in one of those countries (sometimes a less desirable one), get the citizenship, you can then move to somewhere more desired that is much harder to obtain citizenship in--permanently. Usually the place to go for Americans is Ireland, where you can get citizenship in 5 years. Ireland also permits dual citizenship. Not only can you live/work/retire anywhere in the EU+EFTA: because of ties to the UK, having Irish citizenship gives you rights to live/work/retire in the UK. Also, pay attention to who is top on this list (5 of the top 10 are in the EU + EFTA): How healthy will we be in 2040? http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/how-healthy-will-we-be-2040 http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/how-healthy-will-we-b... A lot of people on here also would get a job easily in Ireland, as they meet criteria for being on the Critical Skills Occupation List: https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/What-We-Do/Workplace-and-Skills/Employment-Permits/Employment-Permit-Eligibility/Highly-Skilled-Eligible-Occupations-List/ https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/What-We-Do/Workplace-and-Skills... This means that they do not have to get their employer to do a skilled work test, which means they would otherwise have to prove that they are "not taking away a job from an EU citizen", which is a very high standard to meet. The problem with Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, is that they have medical inadmissibility clauses in their immigration laws. This means that if you or anyone in your family is expected to (or do) cost more than $19,500 CAD/year, $8,000 AUD/year, or $7,500 NZD/year in medical or social services, or both, as an individual: you and your family are medically inadmissible to those countries and will be denied entry. If you or a family member goes over that threshold at any point, your entire family will be forced to go home and leave, even if working full-time and otherwise fully contributing and integrating into society. I would not be surprised if the UK does something like this post-Brexit.

gilbetron 6y ago

Ugh - I can feel the frustration through the intertubes :(

readflaggedcomm 6y ago

Where in your case does doctor intransigence come from, when even insurance companies voice reason? What part of the system incentivizes withholding test results to what benefit? What law?

disabled 6y ago

It’s a good reason to leave and immigrate elsewhere, even if one has to pay US taxes and gets paid less income. You cannot put a price on your health. I naturalized as a citizen elsewhere over US healthcare because I know it is only going to get worse long term. With 2 rare neurological diseases affecting my peripheral nervous system, plus type 1 diabetes (autoimmune and insulin-dependent), I want to stay alive long term, and so that was the best possible choice I could make. I am extremely well versed in immigration, acquiring citizenships, healthcare systems, and healthcare delivery and logistics, and so if anyone wants help or advice, feel free to email me (see my profile).

dencodev 6y ago
What's the best combination of close to the US, high living standards, good healthcare, and feasible to immigrate to as an American with a pretty normal professional career?
- disabled 6y ago
  If you want a decent public answer, then I need to know which continents are off limits to be able to help you. You are being way too vague here. Also, a lot of the help I can give is only useful when discussed privately. I obviously do not want anything to do with confidential information, and I do not need that to help people. It's just that posting certain details about yourself online is not appropriate via public websites. That is why I give my email (see profile). Typically getting citizenship in /any/ European Union + European Free Trade Association country (minus Liechtenstein--has an immigration quota) is the best deal for an American. The reason why? Becoming a citizen of one of these countries confers you EU or EFTA citizenship (let's just call it EU citizenship). Once you become an EU citizen, you have the right to live/work/retire in about 30 different countries. You are also always seen as "The American" with your American educational credentials and American work experience. So, if you can just spend like 5-10 years in one of those countries (sometimes a less desirable one), get the citizenship, you can then move to somewhere more desired that is much harder to obtain citizenship in--permanently. Usually the place to go for Americans is Ireland, where you can get citizenship in 5 years. Ireland also permits dual citizenship. Not only can you live/work/retire anywhere in the EU+EFTA: because of ties to the UK, having Irish citizenship gives you rights to live/work/retire in the UK. Also, pay attention to who is top on this list (5 of the top 10 are in the EU + EFTA): How healthy will we be in 2040? http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/how-healthy-will-we-be-2040 http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/how-healthy-will-we-b... A lot of people on here also would get a job easily in Ireland, as they meet criteria for being on the Critical Skills Occupation List: https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/What-We-Do/Workplace-and-Skills/Employment-Permits/Employment-Permit-Eligibility/Highly-Skilled-Eligible-Occupations-List/ https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/What-We-Do/Workplace-and-Skills... This means that they do not have to get their employer to do a skilled work test, which means they would otherwise have to prove that they are "not taking away a job from an EU citizen", which is a very high standard to meet. The problem with Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, is that they have medical inadmissibility clauses in their immigration laws. This means that if you or anyone in your family is expected to (or do) cost more than $19,500 CAD/year, $8,000 AUD/year, or $7,500 NZD/year in medical or social services, or both, as an individual: you and your family are medically inadmissible to those countries and will be denied entry. If you or a family member goes over that threshold at any point, your entire family will be forced to go home and leave, even if working full-time and otherwise fully contributing and integrating into society. I would not be surprised if the UK does something like this post-Brexit.