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I have no objective to control your activities. I just think that a society inherently restricts freedom. That's the covenant we make for having a "civil" socie

by greedo 6y ago

I have no objective to control your activities. I just think that a society inherently restricts freedom. That's the covenant we make for having a "civil" society. Isn't your insurer impinging on your freedom by charging you more for what they deem reckless or risky behavior? We require people to wear seatbelts, to drive sober, to have a license when operating most vehicles. We restrict people from a large amount of BASE jumping. We prohibit many drugs for recreational use. Society is full of restrictions. And if you don't have insurance? You sure are pushed to the back of the line for healthcare. Get laid off? COBRA only covers you so long, so you'll have to get on the ACA. That's why maintaining the existing healthcare system is a non-starter. It's why traditional Medicare is so popular. Once my generation dies off, it's a no-brainer that the younger generation will do away with the nonsensical system we have.

renewiltord 6y ago
Right, society does restrict my freedom. It doesn't seem particularly outlandish that I already chafe at the fetters and object to any further expansion of that control. Essentially, you seem to be arguing that since society already controls me it should have further power to control me. Well, I think the control it already exercises on me is too much, and I desire a reduction in said control, or at worst a stalling at where it stands right now. There's nothing strange about this disagreement. It's fairly garden variety, except for the argument in favour of the slippery slope, which I must confess to never having heard before. EDIT: I cannot reply to you, jay_kyburz, but I am content to retain the status quo, which would seem acceptable to both so we have no quarrel.
- jay_kyburz 6y ago
  I'm more concerned about the slippery slop sliding the other way, people thinking they can do what they want with no regard to how it might impact their community.

by greedo 6y ago

renewiltord 6y ago

Right, society does restrict my freedom. It doesn't seem particularly outlandish that I already chafe at the fetters and object to any further expansion of that control. Essentially, you seem to be arguing that since society already controls me it should have further power to control me. Well, I think the control it already exercises on me is too much, and I desire a reduction in said control, or at worst a stalling at where it stands right now. There's nothing strange about this disagreement. It's fairly garden variety, except for the argument in favour of the slippery slope, which I must confess to never having heard before. EDIT: I cannot reply to you, jay_kyburz, but I am content to retain the status quo, which would seem acceptable to both so we have no quarrel.

jay_kyburz 6y ago
I'm more concerned about the slippery slop sliding the other way, people thinking they can do what they want with no regard to how it might impact their community.