I'd like to believe this actually true, but I don't think so. Otherwise we would be able to have actually healthy debate about it. I think the reality is there

I'd like to believe this actually true, but I don't think so. Otherwise we would be able to have actually healthy debate about it. I think the reality is there is a very vocal group that wants state run healthcare and the other side thinks things are fine the way they are. If there's another way to do it, let's hear about it.