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as usual, attributing taxed funds to the government, attributing discoveries/development to that funding and assuming it would otherwise not exist, and ignoring

as usual, attributing taxed funds to the government, attributing discoveries/development to that funding and assuming it would otherwise not exist, and ignoring completely the concepts of opportunity cost, waste, or fraud. Typical blind government praise riddled with misinformation, meaningless platitutdes, and logical falacies.

graycat 6y ago
> as usual, attributing taxed funds to the government, attributing discoveries/development to that funding and assuming it would otherwise not exist, We credit Newton, but we don't claim that without Newton we wouldn't have force equals mass time acceleration, the law of gravity, what he did with optics, etc. We credit Einstein for the photo electric effect, Brownian motion as evidence for rapidly moving molecules, special relativity, and general relativity, but we don't claim that without Einstein we would not have those results. Actually, the transformation between coordinate systems in special relativity was from before Einstein, and Poincare had a shot at doing general relativity. It goes on this way: Generally we credit the first or most successful, etc. without saying that otherwise we wouldn't have the results. Or, we are grateful for the results when we get them, know that we've got them, and are not at all sure that we would get the results soon from other sources later. Point: It is appropriate to credit the US military for the 11 examples I gave. But for more, some of those military projects were big bucks efforts, and non-military funding sources would have been tough to find. So for those projects, we would have to have waited longer and might still be waiting. For more, the Internet with TCP/IP was not nearly the first digital communications network or even the first nationwide network. E.g., for a nationwide network, IBM had SNA (Systems Network Architecture) and used it to connect all the airports to a central reservation computer. But compared with TCP/IP, SNA was clumsy -- no way could it do much of what TCP/IP is doing now. > misinformation, meaningless platitutdes, and logical falacies. Examples?

graycat 6y ago

> as usual, attributing taxed funds to the government, attributing discoveries/development to that funding and assuming it would otherwise not exist, We credit Newton, but we don't claim that without Newton we wouldn't have force equals mass time acceleration, the law of gravity, what he did with optics, etc. We credit Einstein for the photo electric effect, Brownian motion as evidence for rapidly moving molecules, special relativity, and general relativity, but we don't claim that without Einstein we would not have those results. Actually, the transformation between coordinate systems in special relativity was from before Einstein, and Poincare had a shot at doing general relativity. It goes on this way: Generally we credit the first or most successful, etc. without saying that otherwise we wouldn't have the results. Or, we are grateful for the results when we get them, know that we've got them, and are not at all sure that we would get the results soon from other sources later. Point: It is appropriate to credit the US military for the 11 examples I gave. But for more, some of those military projects were big bucks efforts, and non-military funding sources would have been tough to find. So for those projects, we would have to have waited longer and might still be waiting. For more, the Internet with TCP/IP was not nearly the first digital communications network or even the first nationwide network. E.g., for a nationwide network, IBM had SNA (Systems Network Architecture) and used it to connect all the airports to a central reservation computer. But compared with TCP/IP, SNA was clumsy -- no way could it do much of what TCP/IP is doing now. > misinformation, meaningless platitutdes, and logical falacies. Examples?