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I mean, outspoken internal employee groups exist and higher ups acknowledge them. Satya drives home the empathy and feelings message more than any other CEO. An
by tmotwu 6y ago
I mean, outspoken internal employee groups exist and higher ups acknowledge them. Satya drives home the empathy and feelings message more than any other CEO. And AFAIK, I don't recall an instance of Microsoft suppressing an employee's voice similar to what happens at Google frequently. They tried getting their employees to participate in their internal social networks but it never caught any attention. Microsoft just does a better job convincing their employees everything they do is for the greater good.
- gundmc 6y agoGoogle has also had several high profile cases of abandoning pursuit of extremely lucrative military/government contracts due to backlash from employees.
- encryptluks2 6y agoIf I had to choose between Google and Microsoft on which company I trusted the most to more good, I'd choose Google time and time again.
- mav3rick 6y agoLOL Microsoft has few forums to even voice your concern. You can't even share your salaries within Microsoft. It's such a joke to tout it as more employee friendly than Google. For starters it pays lesser across the board. Google has also backed out of many contracts when dissent was raised. The voices aren't suppressed at Microsoft, because there're no avenues to raise them anyway.
- tmotwu 6y agoYet people do voice and raise their concerns through those avenues. Just because it's underutilized, it certainly counts. Does Google have more than I am not aware about? You can't share your salaries internally at many places through official means, but it's not uncommon for people to create giant anonymous spreadsheets on salaries and share them among colleagues. Microsoft isn't THAT secretive on salaries and salary levels. I'm not exactly sure what point you're refuting?
- mav3rick 6y agoThe point I'm refuting is that there are far less avenues in Microsoft for employees to collectively complain or share information together or dissent against the top brass.
- tmotwu 6y agoWithout examples of your claim, how would I know?
- mav3rick 6y agoTell me one avenue where employees have complained ? Satyas QnA ? And like you said no one does anything there. You really believe 150k people are all aligned with military contracts ? At Google there are at least 4 company level avenues to raise your voice. You can Google them. And Google has walked back on contracts after backlash on employees. So clearly there is more proactive action here. At Microsoft there is both employees are too meek or don't care and employees can't even voice their concerns. Cycle keeps going on and on.
- tmotwu 6y agoAgain, the vast majority of the 150,000 are not R&D and don't really have anything to do with product development to even matter. Yammer, Satyas QnA - which I'm glad you mentioned because organized groups send a representative every time to talk about government contracts - quarterly all hands, etc. Not to mention the Surface/Hololens org, the org responsible for the tech, holds all hands for their teams very frequently. Sometimes, your org head could be sharing your floor, they don't have special offices. No one's voice is suppressed and no one is being meek, I don't even know how leadership would be able to control that anyway. The simple facts are - 1) there's a small coalition of employees who feel one way about it, 2) not all concerns raised are valid ones and has a need to be addressed - because frankly, it's really a good thing leadership can stand their ground and not sway on the voices of a few employees, no? The proactive action being taken here is the ability to stick with a common sense perspective, not proactively fire your employees for saying mean things about their employer.