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am i the only person excited about this (i dont work at amazon) im pretty burned out on wfh

sneak 6y ago
No, there are lots of extroverts who like social interaction in the workplace, and bad managers who think their main job is to observe and ensure butts-in-seats.
- d1zzy 6y ago
  I don't think I qualify for either introvert or extrovert (that is, I tend to be self-reflective about some things and outgoing about others). There are plenty of other reasons too. It is much faster to communicate face to face (for me) and I tend to be much better at resolving micro-miscommunications that can blow up in hours of days of work delays when I'm face to face than when I'm remote. Compounded with the fact that I am not good at reading people in general (but much worse so remotely), in the WFH setup I end up having a lot more situations where I don't know exactly where a coworker and I stand on a certain issue, which even if it happened in the office it would be resolved in < 5 minutes face to face. I think it's because in the office, interrupting someone with a quick question is a much lower barrier/less hassle than asking them to join you on a short video conference.
throwaway1777 6y ago
I’m excited to go back to the office. I would be happy to never use zoom again.
Teknoman117 6y ago
I'm definitely burned out on wfh for a number of reasons. Mainly, my productivity has gone through the floor. I have a significantly harder time focusing at home. Home is supposed to be my safe space where I don't have to worry too much about external things, but now my job has been brought in and I still really haven't figured it out. Surrounded by all the distractions I've accumulated. Maybe I have ADD, who knows. Maybe I should talk to someone. I understand that there are people who are the opposite because they'd rather be with their families or not face an awful commute. I chose to live a block from the office to avoid that. Having a clear divide between work and play space was working for me.
chrisseaton 6y ago
> am i the only person excited about this If they'd announced people could optionally return to the office, then yeah maybe be excited about it. But are you excited they're going to force your co-workers to return even if they don't want to? Why?
- sokoloff 6y ago
  I’m not in GP’s boat (I unexpectedly love WFH), but if part of what I miss is the effectiveness of shared analog whiteboard discussions, those are hard if you’re the only one at the whiteboard.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    Right I'm pointing out that being glad everyone is being forced back into the office against their will is being glad that other people's happiness is being sacrificed for your own. Which doesn't sound so great when you say it like that.
    - closeparen 6y ago
      It seems like that fully in-person, fully remote, and hybrid teams will all exist, and most people will be able to get their preferences satisfied. You also can’t show up to a startup and sling COBOL or to a bank and cowboy Elixir. People will sort themselves into jobs that match their styles. Perhaps it is “unfair” that remote work partisans will have to go through a job search and I won’t, but you win some and lose some. My job does not optimize my personal happiness either, that’s why they pay me.
    - sokoloff 6y ago
      Or it's being glad that company leadership is, using their best judgment, optimizing for the effectiveness and competitiveness of the company that ensures you have food with your meals. It can be (and likely is) neutral/ignoring of other people's happiness rather than actively glad that they're not getting their way.
- closeparen 6y ago
cmrdporcupine 6y ago
Honestly, I can't wait to go back, and I have a terrible commute. I am not enjoying this, and my productivity is not great. And despite having lots of time at home, my home and hobby productivity has been terrible, too. But I do think I'll probably settle into a routine where I'm only in 3 days a week. Or hunt for a job that is much much closer to home.
DaedPsyker 6y ago
At the start I was. My work never had enforced work at office and there was people who were flexible so there is no mandate to go back. Now that the office is open, honestly I don't go in as much as I thought I would and seem to miss it less than I imagined. I like the flexibility and do enjoy going in on the occasion to see people but honestly I think I'm going to stick to WFH for most of the time.

No, there are lots of extroverts who like social interaction in the workplace, and bad managers who think their main job is to observe and ensure butts-in-seats.

d1zzy 6y ago
I don't think I qualify for either introvert or extrovert (that is, I tend to be self-reflective about some things and outgoing about others). There are plenty of other reasons too. It is much faster to communicate face to face (for me) and I tend to be much better at resolving micro-miscommunications that can blow up in hours of days of work delays when I'm face to face than when I'm remote. Compounded with the fact that I am not good at reading people in general (but much worse so remotely), in the WFH setup I end up having a lot more situations where I don't know exactly where a coworker and I stand on a certain issue, which even if it happened in the office it would be resolved in < 5 minutes face to face. I think it's because in the office, interrupting someone with a quick question is a much lower barrier/less hassle than asking them to join you on a short video conference.

throwaway1777 6y ago

I’m excited to go back to the office. I would be happy to never use zoom again.

Teknoman117 6y ago

I'm definitely burned out on wfh for a number of reasons. Mainly, my productivity has gone through the floor. I have a significantly harder time focusing at home. Home is supposed to be my safe space where I don't have to worry too much about external things, but now my job has been brought in and I still really haven't figured it out. Surrounded by all the distractions I've accumulated. Maybe I have ADD, who knows. Maybe I should talk to someone. I understand that there are people who are the opposite because they'd rather be with their families or not face an awful commute. I chose to live a block from the office to avoid that. Having a clear divide between work and play space was working for me.

chrisseaton 6y ago

> am i the only person excited about this If they'd announced people could optionally return to the office, then yeah maybe be excited about it. But are you excited they're going to force your co-workers to return even if they don't want to? Why?

sokoloff 6y ago
I’m not in GP’s boat (I unexpectedly love WFH), but if part of what I miss is the effectiveness of shared analog whiteboard discussions, those are hard if you’re the only one at the whiteboard.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  Right I'm pointing out that being glad everyone is being forced back into the office against their will is being glad that other people's happiness is being sacrificed for your own. Which doesn't sound so great when you say it like that.
  - closeparen 6y ago
    It seems like that fully in-person, fully remote, and hybrid teams will all exist, and most people will be able to get their preferences satisfied. You also can’t show up to a startup and sling COBOL or to a bank and cowboy Elixir. People will sort themselves into jobs that match their styles. Perhaps it is “unfair” that remote work partisans will have to go through a job search and I won’t, but you win some and lose some. My job does not optimize my personal happiness either, that’s why they pay me.
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    Or it's being glad that company leadership is, using their best judgment, optimizing for the effectiveness and competitiveness of the company that ensures you have food with your meals. It can be (and likely is) neutral/ignoring of other people's happiness rather than actively glad that they're not getting their way.
closeparen 6y ago

cmrdporcupine 6y ago

Honestly, I can't wait to go back, and I have a terrible commute. I am not enjoying this, and my productivity is not great. And despite having lots of time at home, my home and hobby productivity has been terrible, too. But I do think I'll probably settle into a routine where I'm only in 3 days a week. Or hunt for a job that is much much closer to home.

DaedPsyker 6y ago

At the start I was. My work never had enforced work at office and there was people who were flexible so there is no mandate to go back. Now that the office is open, honestly I don't go in as much as I thought I would and seem to miss it less than I imagined. I like the flexibility and do enjoy going in on the occasion to see people but honestly I think I'm going to stick to WFH for most of the time.