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> A lot of consumers are interested in a quality VPN but wouldn't do this kind of research. In that case, they will probably use NordVPN or ProtonVPN
by kyawzazaw 6y ago
> A lot of consumers are interested in a quality VPN but wouldn't do this kind of research.
In that case, they will probably use NordVPN or ProtonVPN
- CharlesW 6y agoWait, is NordVPN something an educated VPN consumer should not use? I switched from PIA after their acquisition, so now I'm wondering what I missed.
- Karunamon 6y agoThey had a pretty wicked breach (for nearly an entire year) a while back: https://nordvpn.com/blog/official-response-datacenter-breach/ https://nordvpn.com/blog/official-response-datacenter-breach..., and I've also heard their rather expansive marketing (the usual youtube personalities) brought up as a negative, but that one doesn't register much for me.
- ev1 6y agoNo one educated should be using NordVPN, more or less. At best it might be acceptable to throw a ton of torrents on as long as you don't use their terrible proprietary client. Even the front page is already freely giving away tons of data to multiple analytics providers. Basically any VPN with an affiliate scheme you should stay away from. NordVPN, Ivacy, VPN Unlimited, FastestVPN, etc explicitly, run like fuck. The more "YOU ARE UNPROTECTED REGISTER NOW!" the faster you should run. NB: I am a power user/developer, but I do not use either company. Objectively, a basic eyeball comparison (match bullet point indexes): Mullvad: - Says "Not using Mullvad" / "Using Mullvad" (a neutral statement) - Shows their company address and registered location at the bottom of every page - No on-page analytics - No third party includes - One price NordVPN: - "Your Status: Unprotected" - "Copyright NordVPN.com" only - Multiple on-page analytics and third parties - Loads google tag manager, google analytics, bing marketing, youtube, third party web surveys, zendesk, twitter ad pixel, google ads, bing, cloudflare, ada chatbot, ravenjs, processout, multiple fingerprinting and persistent device identification/tracking services (also performs webgl/font iteration/plugin iteration/canvas fingerprinting, etc) - Repeated upsells, lying to you about price (see JS for fake "sale ends in x seconds" countdown timers that attempt to induce FOMO and more), packed with dark patterns; "9 hours left easter special TODAY ONLY" - same sale that has been running for years
- bassdropvroom 6y agoThat's right. I use NordVPN because I got suckered into it using their terrible tactics (the whole 67% off for a limited time only offer that's been running for the past what, 3 years?), because stupidly I didn't do any research, but in general I only use NordVPN for ahem torrents. All else, I'd trust my ISP more than NordVPN.
- gsich 6y agoDepends. If you only need a VPN to get around geo-restrictions you can use anything.
- xvector 6y agoMullvad is simply better than Nord and Proton by a lot. Their policies are more detailed, you can pay with cash and crypto, your accounts aren’t associated with any identifying information or email, they describe what exactly is stored in their database tables, they support WireGuard by default, their client engineering team seems more knowledgeable, etc.
- scrose 6y agoI used to use Mullvad, but a lot of their servers were blocked for shows my wife wanted to watch and even on Netflix. I've had much better luck with ProtonVPN for that reason.
- Semaphor 6y agoI think for Netflix there are dedicated VPNs where privacy is less important than frequent IP changes ;)
- ficklepickle 6y agoMaybe ProtonVPN is one of the ones using their users residential IPs to route traffic. How else do you prevent Netflix enumerating all your IP addresses?