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Is "Electricity Neutrality" a concept? Does the government have any control over how I use the electricity that I pay for? This is a genuine question and I'm no

Is "Electricity Neutrality" a concept? Does the government have any control over how I use the electricity that I pay for? This is a genuine question and I'm not trying to be snarky.

rocqua 6y ago
I don't think it is. If you want a big enough electrical cable, you need a deal with the local energy supplier. They can add whatever clause they want. Personally, I don't see much of a reason for Electricity neutrality. It's not like the power companies could use their discretion to disadvantage their competition. Nor does the contention for power lead to large barriers for entry.
namdnay 6y ago
It’s a good question. I’d say that the government already gives itself the right to mandate how you burn your petrol for example, by setting emissions regulations. And more pragmatically, banning crypto would be less politically suicidal than implementing a carbon tax
golemotron 6y ago
The article neglects the best argument for crypto. It will force us to do more energy research and put more money into hydroelectric, solar, and nuclear. We shouldn't let concerns about the environmental problems of current energy sources lead us to destroy an incentive structure that can lead us away from them. Harness the tiger, don't put it down.
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ggreer 6y ago
I don't know of any place requiring different rates and metering for certain uses, but many power companies offer such things as an option. For example: In California, PG&E offers different metering plans for electric vehicles.[1] These plans make it much more expensive to charge your vehicle during peak hours (daytime) and significantly cheaper to charge during the night. Though once you are on separate meters, you're at risk of PG&E unilaterally jacking up your rates for charging your car.[2] I didn't notice the difference in rates until just now, but California's cheapest off-peak rate of 14 cents per kWh is almost twice what I pay for electricity in Washington (8 cents per kWh). It currently costs me $6 to fully charge my car. If I had to pay California rates, charging would cost $11-38 depending on the time of day. 1. https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/rate-plans/rate-plan-options/electric-vehicle-base-plan/electric-vehicle-base-plan.page https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/rate-plans/rate-plan-o... 2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2019/11/19/pge-raises-costs-for-electric-cars-by-25--nobody-blinks/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2019/11/19/pge-ra...
- ur-whale 6y ago
  > don't know of any place requiring different rates and metering for certain uses I don't know about electricity, but this certainly exists for fossil fuels. In some country, diesel has a completely different price if you use it in your car or use it in your tractor to plow a field.
fulafel 6y ago
Some (many?) countries have big subsidies on industrial electricity use and high taxes for other uses.

Is "Electricity Neutrality" a concept? Does the government have any control over how I use the electricity that I pay for? This is a genuine question and I'm not trying to be snarky.

rocqua 6y ago

I don't think it is. If you want a big enough electrical cable, you need a deal with the local energy supplier. They can add whatever clause they want. Personally, I don't see much of a reason for Electricity neutrality. It's not like the power companies could use their discretion to disadvantage their competition. Nor does the contention for power lead to large barriers for entry.

namdnay 6y ago

It’s a good question. I’d say that the government already gives itself the right to mandate how you burn your petrol for example, by setting emissions regulations. And more pragmatically, banning crypto would be less politically suicidal than implementing a carbon tax

golemotron 6y ago

The article neglects the best argument for crypto. It will force us to do more energy research and put more money into hydroelectric, solar, and nuclear. We shouldn't let concerns about the environmental problems of current energy sources lead us to destroy an incentive structure that can lead us away from them. Harness the tiger, don't put it down.

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ggreer 6y ago

I don't know of any place requiring different rates and metering for certain uses, but many power companies offer such things as an option. For example: In California, PG&E offers different metering plans for electric vehicles.[1] These plans make it much more expensive to charge your vehicle during peak hours (daytime) and significantly cheaper to charge during the night. Though once you are on separate meters, you're at risk of PG&E unilaterally jacking up your rates for charging your car.[2] I didn't notice the difference in rates until just now, but California's cheapest off-peak rate of 14 cents per kWh is almost twice what I pay for electricity in Washington (8 cents per kWh). It currently costs me $6 to fully charge my car. If I had to pay California rates, charging would cost $11-38 depending on the time of day. 1. https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/rate-plans/rate-plan-options/electric-vehicle-base-plan/electric-vehicle-base-plan.page https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/rate-plans/rate-plan-o... 2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2019/11/19/pge-raises-costs-for-electric-cars-by-25--nobody-blinks/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2019/11/19/pge-ra...

ur-whale 6y ago
> don't know of any place requiring different rates and metering for certain uses I don't know about electricity, but this certainly exists for fossil fuels. In some country, diesel has a completely different price if you use it in your car or use it in your tractor to plow a field.

fulafel 6y ago

Some (many?) countries have big subsidies on industrial electricity use and high taxes for other uses.