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Yup. Twice now I think "I guess the dev is probably just sitting on all the money they made/are making now, there probably wont' be any more dev" -- to be surpr

Yup. Twice now I think "I guess the dev is probably just sitting on all the money they made/are making now, there probably wont' be any more dev" -- to be surprised by a major release. Wonder what's going on there. Oh wait, will we need to pay to upgrade to ST4? That would explain it -- but unclear, ST3 was offered as a free upgrade to ST2 licenees I think. At this point, if you had to pay to upgrade to ST4, I wonder how many people will be lost to VS Code instead. I hate learning/setting up new tools, but if i have to pay to upgrade to ST4, I'm gonna consider trying to switch to VS Code instead, which I hear good things about, seems very similar to ST, seems actively maintained, and is free. There is nothing I am aware of that is in ST but missing from VS Code, I've just been using ST since before VS Code existed.

signal11 6y ago
> Oh wait, will we need to pay to upgrade to ST4? Maybe not. Depends how/when you bought it, I think. From https://www.sublimehq.com/store/text https://www.sublimehq.com/store/text: > Personal licenses are a once off purchase, and come with 3 years of updates. After 3 years, an upgrade will be required to receive further updates. One license key is all you need for all your computers and operating systems. Edit: the site seems to be a bit inconsistent about pricing info. https://www.sublimetext.com/sales_faq https://www.sublimetext.com/sales_faq says: > Licenses purchased for Sublime Text 3 do not expire, however an upgrade fee will be required for Sublime Text 4. Can anyone please clarify what the correct answer is?
- fprog 6y ago
  From the FAQ on the Sublime Discord: > Any license bought after Sept 2019 warrants three years of updates, including "major" ones, analogous to the Sublime Merge licensing model. A road for upgrading a previously purchased license (potentially recently) has not been decided on yet.
ggregoire 6y ago
I've switched from ST to VSCode 5 years ago and never looked back.
syspec 6y ago
I down own a sublime license myself as I prefer intelli-j, but I never understand the aversion of developers to pay for tools especially what is easily the most important tool they use. I've had colleagues marvel at the capabilities of my editor, then ask if it is free, then grumble and go back to wasting hours at a task I just showed them how to do in seconds. These are developers making closer to 200k than 150k, and they will just not buy software! Blows my mind
- brnt 6y ago
  Believe it or not: a majority of us does not in fact work in Silicon valley and earn 100k+.
  - therealdrag0 6y ago
    I started paying for my tools during my first job out of college outside SV making less then 100k. Also most places I’ve worked offer to expense it.
    - brnt 6y ago
      Good for you. Now consider that for a majority of Europeans 25k is a good salary. Now consider 6 billion world citizens can only dream of 25k.
      - therealdrag0 6y ago
        But that applies to everything. From photoshop or auto cad to laser cutters and pickup trucks. Seems like the best you could argue for is discounts on older models or transfers of “used” licenses.
- NikolaeVarius 6y ago
  Devs are entitled. News at 11.

signal11 6y ago

> Oh wait, will we need to pay to upgrade to ST4? Maybe not. Depends how/when you bought it, I think. From https://www.sublimehq.com/store/text https://www.sublimehq.com/store/text: > Personal licenses are a once off purchase, and come with 3 years of updates. After 3 years, an upgrade will be required to receive further updates. One license key is all you need for all your computers and operating systems. Edit: the site seems to be a bit inconsistent about pricing info. https://www.sublimetext.com/sales_faq https://www.sublimetext.com/sales_faq says: > Licenses purchased for Sublime Text 3 do not expire, however an upgrade fee will be required for Sublime Text 4. Can anyone please clarify what the correct answer is?

fprog 6y ago
From the FAQ on the Sublime Discord: > Any license bought after Sept 2019 warrants three years of updates, including "major" ones, analogous to the Sublime Merge licensing model. A road for upgrading a previously purchased license (potentially recently) has not been decided on yet.

ggregoire 6y ago

I've switched from ST to VSCode 5 years ago and never looked back.

syspec 6y ago

I down own a sublime license myself as I prefer intelli-j, but I never understand the aversion of developers to pay for tools especially what is easily the most important tool they use. I've had colleagues marvel at the capabilities of my editor, then ask if it is free, then grumble and go back to wasting hours at a task I just showed them how to do in seconds. These are developers making closer to 200k than 150k, and they will just not buy software! Blows my mind

brnt 6y ago
Believe it or not: a majority of us does not in fact work in Silicon valley and earn 100k+.
- therealdrag0 6y ago
  I started paying for my tools during my first job out of college outside SV making less then 100k. Also most places I’ve worked offer to expense it.
  - brnt 6y ago
    Good for you. Now consider that for a majority of Europeans 25k is a good salary. Now consider 6 billion world citizens can only dream of 25k.
    - therealdrag0 6y ago
      But that applies to everything. From photoshop or auto cad to laser cutters and pickup trucks. Seems like the best you could argue for is discounts on older models or transfers of “used” licenses.
NikolaeVarius 6y ago
Devs are entitled. News at 11.