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I'd really like to hear about pg's gripes with TechStars.
by yuvadam 15y ago
I'd really like to hear about pg's gripes with TechStars.
- staunch 15y agoBackstory as I understand it: David Cohen asked PG's permission to start a YC franchise of some sort in Boulder. He said no. David Cohen cloned YC in virtually every respect (down to copying the application form). Basically what Wimdu is doing to AirBnb. Still, it has been 5 years and YC has certainly not suffered. I'm surprised PG isn't a bit more magnanimous towards them.
- cantbecool 15y agoImitation is the greatest form of flattery. I don't think PG cares too much.
- davidw 15y agoHe didn't give that impression in the video. It's too bad, because Techstars seems like a pretty cool thing in its own right. To me, Boulder also sounds way more attractive than the Bay Area at this stage in my life.
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- cantbecool 15y agoI guess PG simply didn't want to be bothered with questions regarding his competitors. I agree with your sentiment. Boulder seems more attractive than the Bay Area, and I'm rather young.
- johnx123 15y agoWe need more YC. YC is rejecting every applications. So, TS is good, IMHO. But, his remark "they find people" is more arrogant.
- ig1 15y agoNot really. TechStars is a franchise model, Cohen built a replicable model for seed accelerators while YC is largely driven by Paul Graham personally. You could remove Cohen from TechStars and TechStars would be the same, you couldn't remove PG from YC without changing it's nature substantially. TechStars was obviously derived from YC, but it's no more a clone than McDonalds was a clone of existing Burger bars.
- staunch 15y agoThey copied everything about YC as it originally existed down to the application form. If that doesn't count as a clone nothing does. TechStars has only recently started trying to replicate their model on a wide scale. They're very far from proving that they can. The fact that TS would be just as good without the founder isn't necessarily a positive sign.
- davidw 15y ago> The fact that TS would be just as good without the founder isn't necessarily a positive sign. If they have 'productized' the process so that they get, rather than one charismatic, super smart guy like PG, a series of founder types who go in and talk and mentor their startups, perhaps it can be made to "scale" to some degree, rather than be a program based exclusively on the brilliance of one individual. Although, to be fair, YC seems to be taking on new people as well.