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My opinion is that they shouldn't care and in fact have no basis to complain. I consider it "work for hire", and they are being paid handsomely for their work.
by intrasight 6y ago
My opinion is that they shouldn't care and in fact have no basis to complain. I consider it "work for hire", and they are being paid handsomely for their work. Do we developers complain when, if we work for Apple, that Apple takes credit for our work?
- pjc50 6y ago> they are being paid handsomely for their work. I think the complaint is that they aren't being paid "adequately", but without actual numbers it's hard to tell. I suspect few of them are making SV developer salaries.
- intrasight 6y agoI suspect that the average is much higher than an SV salary. And the standard deviation is much higher too. More like in sports.
- jonnycomputer 6y agoWell, sure, but the median is probably quite low.
- intrasight 6y agoAgain - similar to sports. Is somewhat of a "winner take all" market.
- dec0dedab0de 6y agono, but maybe we should
- intrasight 6y agoIs simple. Just remove "work for hire" from your contract.
- triceratops 6y agoHave you read their contract?
- Rule35 6y agoIf you're being taken advantage of because of X it's a safe bet you don't have an anti-X clause in your contract...
- gh-throw 6y ago“Other workers are trying to get a better deal than me and should cut it out” is one of my least-favorite opinions on labor matters.
- nonsince 6y agoThe entire point is that they’re not being paid handsomely, they’re being taken advantage of. Did you even read past the headline?
- intrasight 6y agoMost pop hits are written by a dozen middle-aged Scandinavian men. I'm sure they are paid very handsomely.
- psychometry 6y agoAgain, try reading the article before commenting.
- intrasight 6y agoI've read plenty on this topic. Believe me, those writers who reliably put out hits have NO problem paying their rent.
- emodendroket 6y agoThey claim writers are struggling to pay their rent, so I think the premise that they are being paid handsomely is in dispute.
- EveYoung 6y agoEven if developers don't get direct credit, just having these big names in their CV increases their value massively.
- intrasight 6y agoI'm sure these songwriters put those big names on their CVs too
- cestith 6y agoMost songwriters write songs then shop them around. They're not typically freelancers writing a song for an act for pay. They're like small software shops writing source code, and then the company that licenses that code, compiles it, and sells it is wanting a copyright on the source and royalties on other licenses sold.
- intrasight 6y agoYou get whatever you and your legal team negotiate. Just like in any other business contract.
- psychometry 6y ago>they are being paid handsomely for their work Seems like someone didn't read the article...
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- Eszik 6y agoHave you read the article? "Credit" here is not meant as recognition, it's meant as retribution. Performers put their name down as writers/producers despite being no part of the songwriting process, taking a cut from the writer's revenue, and additionally get revenue for their performance + merch, concert tickets, etc.