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Probably because it was not doing just fine outside of it. If you think they took the wrong approach and yours is the right one, show them by doing.

throw0101a 6y ago
> If you think they took the wrong approach and yours is the right one, show them by doing. If Roger Ebert said a movie was awful, did people expect him to write, produce, direct, and/or act in one? If Doug DeMuro said a car handles badly, are people expecting him to get a mechanical engineering degree and build a better one?
- faho 6y ago
  Ebert did write a movie: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Valley_of_the_Dolls https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Valley_of_the_Dol...
  - throw0101a 6y ago
    Yes, I know. :) And that would probably be the level of quality of any code I tried to write. :)
- vetinari 6y ago
  So what weight should throw0101a's word have? Why? Since throw0101a has exactly zero public record of understanding the topic at hand, and everything he provided is an opinion, why should be that opinion taken into account? What exactly is his point, except for demonstrating that throw0101a doesn't like the existing approach? The show them better is one way to establish your credentials that you know what you are talking about. There are other ways to achieve similar effect, but peanut gallery isn't it.
  - throw0101a 6y ago
    > So what weight should throw0101a's word have? Why? About the same as any other rando's on the Internet. Take it or leave it. Up or down vote me. As I type this: I have 23 imaginary Internet points on the post that kicked-off this sub-thread, and 0 points on a post bringing up Ebert and DeMuro. Whatever.
    - vetinari 6y ago
      Do you do the discussion for imaginary internet points? I'm neither down nor up voting you; I consider doing that to people I discuss with a bad form (yes, that's opinion too). However, it helps the discussion if there are arguments for the positions of those discussing; the point is not for either side to "win" (whatever that means and however you measure that "win"), but to find the best outcome after considering all valid arguments. However, that does not work when there aren't any arguments. Vaguely liking or not liking something, and having no idea about the
      - throw0101a 6y ago
        > Do you do the discussion for imaginary internet points? That's what Bitcoin is and people assign value to those useless bits don't they? What's the point of life if you can't fret over magnetic ones and zeros?
        vetinari 6y ago
        The value of any currency is in that, that you can get material stuff in exchange. The biggie historically used to be to be able pay the taxes, today getting extra heaps of atoms delivered to your doorstep does the job too. Quite difficult to do with imaginary internet points tho ;)
        throw0101a 6y ago
        > Quite difficult to do with imaginary internet points tho ;) There's a market for established Reddit accounts: * https://blog.usejournal.com/what-i-learned-selling-my-reddit-accounts-c5e9f6348005 https://blog.usejournal.com/what-i-learned-selling-my-reddit...

throw0101a 6y ago

> If you think they took the wrong approach and yours is the right one, show them by doing. If Roger Ebert said a movie was awful, did people expect him to write, produce, direct, and/or act in one? If Doug DeMuro said a car handles badly, are people expecting him to get a mechanical engineering degree and build a better one?

faho 6y ago
Ebert did write a movie: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Valley_of_the_Dolls https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Valley_of_the_Dol...
- throw0101a 6y ago
  Yes, I know. :) And that would probably be the level of quality of any code I tried to write. :)
vetinari 6y ago
So what weight should throw0101a's word have? Why? Since throw0101a has exactly zero public record of understanding the topic at hand, and everything he provided is an opinion, why should be that opinion taken into account? What exactly is his point, except for demonstrating that throw0101a doesn't like the existing approach? The show them better is one way to establish your credentials that you know what you are talking about. There are other ways to achieve similar effect, but peanut gallery isn't it.
- throw0101a 6y ago
  > So what weight should throw0101a's word have? Why? About the same as any other rando's on the Internet. Take it or leave it. Up or down vote me. As I type this: I have 23 imaginary Internet points on the post that kicked-off this sub-thread, and 0 points on a post bringing up Ebert and DeMuro. Whatever.
  - vetinari 6y ago
    Do you do the discussion for imaginary internet points? I'm neither down nor up voting you; I consider doing that to people I discuss with a bad form (yes, that's opinion too). However, it helps the discussion if there are arguments for the positions of those discussing; the point is not for either side to "win" (whatever that means and however you measure that "win"), but to find the best outcome after considering all valid arguments. However, that does not work when there aren't any arguments. Vaguely liking or not liking something, and having no idea about the
    - throw0101a 6y ago
      > Do you do the discussion for imaginary internet points? That's what Bitcoin is and people assign value to those useless bits don't they? What's the point of life if you can't fret over magnetic ones and zeros?
      - vetinari 6y ago
        The value of any currency is in that, that you can get material stuff in exchange. The biggie historically used to be to be able pay the taxes, today getting extra heaps of atoms delivered to your doorstep does the job too. Quite difficult to do with imaginary internet points tho ;)
        throw0101a 6y ago
        > Quite difficult to do with imaginary internet points tho ;) There's a market for established Reddit accounts: * https://blog.usejournal.com/what-i-learned-selling-my-reddit-accounts-c5e9f6348005 https://blog.usejournal.com/what-i-learned-selling-my-reddit...