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> Am I the only one or has the world gone absolutely batshit insane, driven by purple haired Twitter trans-extremists? One of the things I always thought reall

> Am I the only one or has the world gone absolutely batshit insane, driven by purple haired Twitter trans-extremists? One of the things I always thought really great about the Net is that I can be whoever I like. So I think it’s cool that people can redefine and choose whatever pronouns, titles, and names they think are most applicable to them. I met a guy a con who went by “Hugme” and used that name everywhere. I also went to school with someone who went by the name “Taerthrum.” Neat. Identity is personal and can be whatever I like as it doesn’t harm you. Taking this to an extreme, I expect that as we move closer to digital consciousnesses people will identity as more and more unique characteristics that frequently won’t line up with how they were born.

sgt 6y ago
That's the thing, I have no problems with lifestyles, sexual orientations, but what is happening here is that a certain convention is being forced on us, whether we like it or not.
- prepend 6y ago
  I don’t view it as being forced, I see it as people just expressing their preferences. Although I don’t agree with people spending effort on misuse of pronouns as I think that arguing with trolls is counterproductive. I’ve never experienced any genuine assholery in a professional sense with people not trying to use preferred salutations and in personal life, just ignoring idiots is already required. It seems similar to if someone were to call me a ginger because I have red hair. It’s rude, but not something I expect to experience. I think the argument over it is bikeshedding and, for me, it’s just something I do to be polite and don’t think about it. In that if you said “Hello, I’m Foo sgt” I would work to call you “Foo sgt” and not “Dr sgt” or “Mr Bob” or whatever. I want to spend zero cycles on this and move on to important things. Calling people by their preferred handle seems simple to me. And I skip all the “But shouldn’t you force” stuff.
  - no-s 6y ago
    > Calling people by their preferred handle seems simple to me. Many people are taking offense at gender-distinctive forms embedded in the language. The argument is the accepted usage demeans whoever is not represented. So to solve this they've proposed more distinctions, and take offense at being implicitly excluded when the distinctive pronouns are not used. They also take offense at any criticism. I don't think this is going to end well by just humoring people and moving on, especially if the slightest error or criticism results in bullying and ostracism.

sgt 6y ago

That's the thing, I have no problems with lifestyles, sexual orientations, but what is happening here is that a certain convention is being forced on us, whether we like it or not.

prepend 6y ago
I don’t view it as being forced, I see it as people just expressing their preferences. Although I don’t agree with people spending effort on misuse of pronouns as I think that arguing with trolls is counterproductive. I’ve never experienced any genuine assholery in a professional sense with people not trying to use preferred salutations and in personal life, just ignoring idiots is already required. It seems similar to if someone were to call me a ginger because I have red hair. It’s rude, but not something I expect to experience. I think the argument over it is bikeshedding and, for me, it’s just something I do to be polite and don’t think about it. In that if you said “Hello, I’m Foo sgt” I would work to call you “Foo sgt” and not “Dr sgt” or “Mr Bob” or whatever. I want to spend zero cycles on this and move on to important things. Calling people by their preferred handle seems simple to me. And I skip all the “But shouldn’t you force” stuff.
- no-s 6y ago
  > Calling people by their preferred handle seems simple to me. Many people are taking offense at gender-distinctive forms embedded in the language. The argument is the accepted usage demeans whoever is not represented. So to solve this they've proposed more distinctions, and take offense at being implicitly excluded when the distinctive pronouns are not used. They also take offense at any criticism. I don't think this is going to end well by just humoring people and moving on, especially if the slightest error or criticism results in bullying and ostracism.